[PaQSO] Dupe Sheet from N1MM

[MARK KEMPISTY]

With computer logging it is in your benefit to log dupes.  Dave Robbins K1TTT 
(one of the premiere contestors in the world) has a short note at the end of the 
N1MM manual about why you MUST log dupes. If its good for him its good for the 
rest of us. I have been working dupes since I read this over 8 years ago.

My personal experience is that I hear too many running stations waste 
time trying to explain the dupe. In that amount of time they could have easily 
worked two or three more stations with one of them probably being me. That would 
let me move on to the next QSO.  The ones that are working dupes never break 
stride and just may have eliminated a logging penalty.

If your logging program lets you work dupes, work them!  The only program I have 
recently seen that did not let you do so was N3FJP's Field Day logger. I do not 
know if that restriction extends to his other contest programs.
 Take care,
Mark 
AA3K




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From: Anthony Good <anthony.good at gmail.com>
To: PaQSO at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 12:56:38 PM
Subject: Re: [PaQSO] Dupe Sheet from N1MM

If the program doesn't count the dupe in the score, does it matter?  And I
think what K8MR is saying below is that it is probably better to log the
dupe, otherwise the station that correctly logged the first contact risks
losing points if log reconciliation is in place.  However, I don't think the
organizers use automated log checking, so admittedly a lot of logging sins
probably go unnoticed.

A few years ago dupe logging seemed wrong and counterintuitive to me until a
wise old... errr.... make that "experienced" contester down the road named
Bob explained it to me :-)  Now I log dupes religiously.

72
Goody

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Bob Raker <bob.raker at gmail.com> wrote:

> You may want to re-think that for PAQP - from the rules:  "100 points will
> be deducted for each duplicate QSO found."
>
> 73,
> Bob
> W0BR/3
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:23 PM, <Jimk8mr at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/6/2010 11:23:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > mjc5 at psu.edu writes:
> >
> > I'd just  as soon not see them. As a mark of good operating procedure,
> and
> > with logging  software, a duplicate contact just seems messy and has no
> > place in a submitted  log. Some other contests/parties allow them. That's
> > just
> > my opinion  however.
> >
> > ==================
> >
> > While nobody should knowingly call a guy to make a duplicate contact, we
> > all know that dupes happen for lots of reasons.  Most contesters find
> that
> > it is better to just work and log a dupe, rather than to spend time
> > discussing  the previous qso.
> >
> > 1.  It is usually a lot faster to just work the guy.
> >
> > 2.  You may not be in the other guy's log for what you thought was  your
> > previous qso.  If that is the case and you don't make and log the  second
> > qso,
> > you won't have any contact with the guy, who may have been a good
> > multiplier.
> >
> >
> > See you all as W3USA/M in about 20 counties on Saturday!
> >
> >
> > 73  -  Jim    K8MR
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