[OKDXA] 3Y0J 30 M FT8

[Jeff Martin]

Hi Connie,
    Well, maybe... Maybe not... They have stated repeatedly that they are 
using WSJT-X F/H software. You can't transmit 2nd sequence as a Fox with 
WSJT-X. I really believe we have multiple pirates out there just 
screwing with folks. It's the pirate transmitting on the 2nd sequence. 
Then he gets a ton of people calling him on the first sequence. Then it 
could be another pirate or the same one calling CQ on the first sequence 
a couple times, just screwing with the multitudes... As I stated before, 
the other day on 21.105 the multitudes were calling on both sequences. I 
had a couple decodes of 3Y0J giving someone RR73. This 3Y0J was on the 
second sequence (So not F/H). A little later I copied a CQ from 3Y0J 
with a Grid of EL97 (Florida) on 21.105 first sequence(A definite pirate 
- grid EL97). Then the masses began calling him again on 2nd sequence... 
I bet, if and when they ever get a log uploaded, there will be many many 
disappointed DXers who thought they had a QSO, but are not in the log 
because they worked a pirate...
   The real 3Y0J stations are so weak with their 100 watts and a wire and 
QTH behind mountains on the SE side of the island we can't hear them in 
NA. They are working EU and JA and a very few W's... The rest of the W's 
are working pirates...
   I agree with you that a lot of this is self-inflicted by the 
DXpedition organizers. They raised a ton of money, publicized the event 
extensively, and set expectations very high... i.e.... 12 stations on 
the air, 200K QSOs, all band activity, etc., etc. They set expectations 
very high and they have not delivered. So, folks are frustrated, whether 
it's justified or not... It's no excuse for the poor behavior we are 
witnessing on the bands, but it is a contributor...  Compare this 
DXpedition with the Congo DXpedition of just a few weeks ago... That was 
a tremendously successful effort, 165K QSOs, very professionally done. 
You didn't hear the crap on their pileup frequencies like what is on 
3Y0J... So, the DXpedition operator/organizer has some responsibility 
for a smooth running show.... My 2 cents worth...

73,
Jeff - K5WE


------ Original Message ------
>From "Connie Marshall" <k5cm-2 at suddenlink.net>
To okdxa at mailman.qth.net
Date 2/10/2023 1:53:40 PM
Subject Re: [OKDXA] 3Y0J 30 M FT8

>Hi guys,
>
>A lot of the problem was self inflected by the 3Y0J operators. They were TXing on 15/45 as a fox. They were doing this on 30 meters the last two nites that I copied. Was not a problem for me as I us JTDX software, but for WSJT-X users running as a Hound it put them on the wrong sequence automatically as soon as the clicked on the 3Y0J call on the screen.
>
>73, Connie / K5CM
>
>On 2/9/2023 11:14 PM, N5OK wrote:
>>Jeff,
>>
>>I believe you are correct.  I made the same observations.  In addition, I
>>think a lot of these folks have never worked FT8 before and are clueless....
>>What a mess indeed!
>>
>>Coy
>>Coy C Day, N5OK
>>20685 SW 29
>>Union City, OK 73090
>>H(405) 483-5632 C(405) 448-2368
>>n5ok at arrl.net
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 8:39 PM Jeff Martin <jeffk5we at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Right now there are many folks calling 3y0J on both sequences on 10.144
>>>FT8. I have a few decodes of a 3Y0J station calling CQ on the odd
>>>sequence. He is running multi-streams. My bet is this 3Y0J is a pirate.
>>>The real 3Y0J is probably also in there on the even sequence as a Fox. I
>>>never can hear him, he is so weak. Some folks probably do hear him, and
>>>are calling him as Hounds on the odd sequence, or more likely most of
>>>those calling are just calling blind... So what we have folks is a real
>>>mess... I'll say it again, I don't think I have decoded a real 3Y0J yet,
>>>they are too weak... This is one for the history books... hi...
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Jeff - K5WE
>>>
>>>
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