[NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF

Mon Jul 19 15:34:49 EDT 2021

What about FSK441 and now MSK144? I don't recall this much talk about digital in VHF contesting when those modes were popular (and still are) Are those also not modes that use software for decoding?

I admit I'm certainly no VHF expert. I will agree with Jim that these modes have allowed my small station to experience some really fun times over the past couple years.

Whenever I go check other modes I rarely hear others. (Those that know me know I'm a big cw fan). It was that way for me before FT8. If I do get to 144.200 I hear a QSO take place and as I wait my turn, I hear that station asked "Have other bands"? And then they go off somewhere else.

This hobby will continually evolve. We can choose to embrace and try the new things or not do so. That's what makes it so much fun for me.

KK

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From: nlrs-bounces at mailman.qth.net <nlrs-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:06:17 AM
To: Minnesota Wireless Association <mwa at w0aa.org>
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Subject: Re: [NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF

What about RTTY, the human ear can't decode it either, yet it has had a
firm place in ham radio and contesting for many decades.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 11:02 AM Rich Westerberg <richn0hjz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim -
>
> First, I'm all for advancing technology and trying new things.  FT8 is
> definitely an advancement in technology.
>
> Whether spark-gap, AM, CW or SSB, you have always needed the amateur
> operator to decode the signal.  This new technology does everything for
> you.  The amateur doesn't add any value.  It will not be long before you
> can put the computer on auto-pilot and let it work the complete contest for
> you.
>
> The mode has killed VHF Contests.  In the past, a June Contest could have
> QSO counts over 1,000.  FT8 has skimmed off enough people where that might
> not happen again.  It would be nice to have a real June Contest with SSB/CW
> and a separate Digital contest.
>
> Don't get me started on awards.
>
> Rich
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jim Lageson <jim.lageson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sparkgap hams hated CW hams… CW hams hated AM hams…AM hams hated SSB
>> “Donald Duck” hams …SSB hams hated AM and FM hams.. When PSK31 came CW and
>> SSB hams hated it and cried that it will kill ham radio.. It didn’t.
>>
>> I happen to enjoy FT8. Having a VHF station with limited power and
>> antennas digital modes has opened a whole new world to me. It seems the
>> perfect weak signal mode for VHF. I don't feel FT8 is going to be the death
>> to VHF contesting, it's just evolving. I  worked 58 Europeans this season
>> using a Hex beam and a small 3 element yagi thanks to FT8. I worked
>> N1BUG-1200 miles and VE2DFO-700miles on 2 meters FT8 running 10 watts
>> during last weekend VHF contest.  Maybe contest sponsors should give more
>> points for non-digital modes or let you work stations again on different
>> modes, that would get folks off the screen. I consider myself a CW guy and
>> would prefer to work that mode, but for now it is what it is.
>>
>> I hope I didn't open a can of worms but FT8 is not the devil.
>>
>> jim
>> n0ur
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:48 AM Rich Westerberg <richn0hjz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Due to a business trip, I could only spend a couple hours on Saturday.
>>>
>>> It was amazing how strong the signals were on 6M on Saturday night, and
>>> there were still people sitting on their crystal on 50.313.
>>>
>>> I couldn't believe how few people were found on 2M SSB or CW.  I could
>>> hear signals on 144.174.
>>>
>>> There are so many Upper Midwest folks I never heard on SSB and CW.  FT8
>>> is going to be the death of VHF contesting.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Rich N0HJZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                     CQ Worldwide VHF Contest - 2021
>>>
>>> Call: N0HJZ
>>> Operator(s): N0HJZ
>>> Station: N0HJZ
>>>
>>> Class: SOAB LP
>>> QTH: MN
>>> Operating Time (hrs): 3
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>>  Band  QSOs  Mults
>>> -------------------
>>>     6:  122    48
>>>     2:    7     5
>>> -------------------
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