[NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF
Wyatt Dirks
dirkswyatt10 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 15:14:31 EDT 2021
Most of these statements are false. Activity on vhf is dieing yes and ft8
can be blamed for some but not all of it. Activity on vhf was dieing long
before ft8.
Secondly saying digi modes require no skill is clearly coming from someone
whose never operated a 6m ft8 pile up from Europe for instance. ( yes I had
15 plus stations from euope calling me every seq for an hour Sunday)
Understand also I'm contester and do very well in vhf contests. Some of you
know this. Making statements on topics you know nothing about is what this
thread is about.
73 Wyatt
Ac0ra
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 1:52 PM Mary Brown <maryalanab at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no skill involved with FT8... assemble hardware and go. Computer
> does the rest other than one or 2 clicks to make a contact. Digital needs
> its own contests or contest category.
>
> Mary
> W0AAT
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Jack K0JP
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 1:32 PM
> To: Minnesota Wireless Association; Rolf Krogstad
> Cc: NRLS Reflector
> Subject: Re: [NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF
>
> But at least with RTTY you have an active role in finding stations to
> work, not just clicking off a list. In a RTTY contest if one used a skimmer
> to identify multiple signals you would either be DQed (if you tried to
> enter SO) or placed in a multiop category. Why any of the FT modes
> qualifies as a single op entry is beyond me.
>
> On 7/19/2021 11:06 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote:
> > What about RTTY, the human ear can't decode it either, yet it has had
> > a firm place in ham radio and contesting for many decades.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 11:02 AM Rich Westerberg <richn0hjz at gmail.com
> > <mailto:richn0hjz at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Jim -
> >
> > First, I'm all for advancing technology and trying new things.
> > FT8 is definitely an advancement in technology.
> >
> > Whether spark-gap, AM, CW or SSB, you have always needed the
> > amateur operator to decode the signal. This new technology does
> > everything for you. The amateur doesn't add any value. It will
> > not be long before you can put the computer on auto-pilot and let
> > it work the complete contest for you.
> >
> > The mode has killed VHF Contests. In the past, a June Contest
> > could have QSO counts over 1,000. FT8 has skimmed off enough
> > people where that might not happen again. It would be nice to
> > have a real June Contest with SSB/CW and a separate Digital contest.
> >
> > Don't get me started on awards.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jim Lageson
> > <jim.lageson at gmail.com <mailto:jim.lageson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Sparkgap hams hated CW hams… CW hams hated AM hams…AM hams
> > hated SSB “Donald Duck” hams …SSB hams hated AM and FM hams..
> > When PSK31 came CW and SSB hams hated it and cried that it
> > will kill ham radio.. It didn’t.
> >
> > I happen to enjoy FT8. Having a VHF station with limited power
> > and antennas digital modes has opened a whole new world to me.
> > It seems the perfect weak signal mode for VHF. I don't feel
> > FT8 is going to be the death to VHF contesting, it's just
> > evolving. I worked 58 Europeans this season using a Hex beam
> > and a small 3 element yagi thanks to FT8. I worked N1BUG-1200
> > miles and VE2DFO-700miles on 2 meters FT8 running 10 watts
> > during last weekend VHF contest. Maybe contest sponsors should
> > give more points for non-digital modes or let you work
> > stations again on different modes, that would get folks off
> > the screen. I consider myself a CW guy and would prefer to
> > work that mode, but for now it is what it is.
> >
> > I hope I didn't open a can of worms but FT8 is not the devil.
> >
> > jim
> > n0ur
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:48 AM Rich Westerberg
> > <richn0hjz at gmail.com <mailto:richn0hjz at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Due to a business trip, I could only spend a couple hours
> > on Saturday.
> >
> > It was amazing how strong the signals were on 6M on
> > Saturday night, and there were still people sitting on
> > their crystal on 50.313.
> >
> > I couldn't believe how few people were found on 2M SSB or
> > CW. I could hear signals on 144.174.
> >
> > There are so many Upper Midwest folks I never heard on SSB
> > and CW. FT8 is going to be the death of VHF contesting.
> >
> > 73
> > Rich N0HJZ
> >
> >
> >
> > CQ Worldwide VHF Contest - 2021
> >
> > Call: N0HJZ
> > Operator(s): N0HJZ
> > Station: N0HJZ
> >
> > Class: SOAB LP
> > QTH: MN
> > Operating Time (hrs): 3
> >
> > Summary:
> > Band QSOs Mults
> > -------------------
> > 6: 122 48
> > 2: 7 5
> > -------------------
> > Total: 129 53 Total Score = 7,208
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> --
> 73,
>
> Jack, K0JP/VE3RUA
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