[NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF
Mary Brown
maryalanab at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 14:51:00 EDT 2021
There is no skill involved with FT8... assemble hardware and go. Computer does the rest other than one or 2 clicks to make a contact. Digital needs its own contests or contest category.
Mary
W0AAT
-----Original Message-----
From: nlrs-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:nlrs-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack K0JP
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 1:32 PM
To: Minnesota Wireless Association; Rolf Krogstad
Cc: NRLS Reflector
Subject: Re: [NLRS] [MWA] N0HJZ - CQWW VHF
But at least with RTTY you have an active role in finding stations to work, not just clicking off a list. In a RTTY contest if one used a skimmer to identify multiple signals you would either be DQed (if you tried to enter SO) or placed in a multiop category. Why any of the FT modes qualifies as a single op entry is beyond me.
On 7/19/2021 11:06 AM, Rolf Krogstad wrote:
> What about RTTY, the human ear can't decode it either, yet it has had
> a firm place in ham radio and contesting for many decades.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 11:02 AM Rich Westerberg <richn0hjz at gmail.com
> <mailto:richn0hjz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Jim -
>
> First, I'm all for advancing technology and trying new things.
> FT8 is definitely an advancement in technology.
>
> Whether spark-gap, AM, CW or SSB, you have always needed the
> amateur operator to decode the signal. This new technology does
> everything for you. The amateur doesn't add any value. It will
> not be long before you can put the computer on auto-pilot and let
> it work the complete contest for you.
>
> The mode has killed VHF Contests. In the past, a June Contest
> could have QSO counts over 1,000. FT8 has skimmed off enough
> people where that might not happen again. It would be nice to
> have a real June Contest with SSB/CW and a separate Digital contest.
>
> Don't get me started on awards.
>
> Rich
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jim Lageson
> <jim.lageson at gmail.com <mailto:jim.lageson at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sparkgap hams hated CW hams… CW hams hated AM hams…AM hams
> hated SSB “Donald Duck” hams …SSB hams hated AM and FM hams..
> When PSK31 came CW and SSB hams hated it and cried that it
> will kill ham radio.. It didn’t.
>
> I happen to enjoy FT8. Having a VHF station with limited power
> and antennas digital modes has opened a whole new world to me.
> It seems the perfect weak signal mode for VHF. I don't feel
> FT8 is going to be the death to VHF contesting, it's just
> evolving. I worked 58 Europeans this season using a Hex beam
> and a small 3 element yagi thanks to FT8. I worked N1BUG-1200
> miles and VE2DFO-700miles on 2 meters FT8 running 10 watts
> during last weekend VHF contest. Maybe contest sponsors should
> give more points for non-digital modes or let you work
> stations again on different modes, that would get folks off
> the screen. I consider myself a CW guy and would prefer to
> work that mode, but for now it is what it is.
>
> I hope I didn't open a can of worms but FT8 is not the devil.
>
> jim
> n0ur
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 1:48 AM Rich Westerberg
> <richn0hjz at gmail.com <mailto:richn0hjz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Due to a business trip, I could only spend a couple hours
> on Saturday.
>
> It was amazing how strong the signals were on 6M on
> Saturday night, and there were still people sitting on
> their crystal on 50.313.
>
> I couldn't believe how few people were found on 2M SSB or
> CW. I could hear signals on 144.174.
>
> There are so many Upper Midwest folks I never heard on SSB
> and CW. FT8 is going to be the death of VHF contesting.
>
> 73
> Rich N0HJZ
>
>
>
> CQ Worldwide VHF Contest - 2021
>
> Call: N0HJZ
> Operator(s): N0HJZ
> Station: N0HJZ
>
> Class: SOAB LP
> QTH: MN
> Operating Time (hrs): 3
>
> Summary:
> Band QSOs Mults
> -------------------
> 6: 122 48
> 2: 7 5
> -------------------
> Total: 129 53 Total Score = 7,208
> _______________________________________________
> Minnesota Wireless Association mailing list
> To post a message: MWA at w0aa.org <mailto:MWA at w0aa.org>
>
> To contact the list manager: mwa-owner at w0aa.org
> <mailto:mwa-owner at w0aa.org>
>
> List Help:
> http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org
> <http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org>
>
> MWA Official Web Site: https://www.w0aa.org
> <https://www.w0aa.org>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Minnesota Wireless Association mailing list
> To post a message: MWA at w0aa.org <mailto:MWA at w0aa.org>
>
> To contact the list manager: mwa-owner at w0aa.org
> <mailto:mwa-owner at w0aa.org>
>
> List Help: http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org
> <http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org>
>
> MWA Official Web Site: https://www.w0aa.org
> <https://www.w0aa.org>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Minnesota Wireless Association mailing list
> To post a message: MWA at w0aa.org <mailto:MWA at w0aa.org>
>
> To contact the list manager: mwa-owner at w0aa.org
> <mailto:mwa-owner at w0aa.org>
>
> List Help: http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org
> <http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org>
>
> MWA Official Web Site: https://www.w0aa.org <https://www.w0aa.org>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Minnesota Wireless Association mailing list To post a message:
> MWA at w0aa.org
>
> To contact the list manager: mwa-owner at w0aa.org
>
> List Help: http://mail.w0aa.org/mailman/listinfo/mwa_w0aa.org
>
> MWA Official Web Site: https://www.w0aa.org
--
73,
Jack, K0JP/VE3RUA
--
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus
______________________________________________________________
NLRS mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/nlrs
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:NLRS at mailman.qth.net
This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
More information about the NLRS
mailing list