[MRIC] Minutes for 4-26-08

Tue Apr 29 10:22:07 EDT 2008

Brett,

That is why both the Baltimore County RO and I specifically requested 
that you enter into the record our reasons for "not participating" in 
the Winlink2000 "project".  Also, I do not recall your asking either Joe 
or I to send you our comments so they could be included in the minutes.  
I only remember your being adament about not including our comments in 
the Winlink2000 section, but being agreeable to put our voiced comments 
into the minutes. 

I will send you my comments to be incorporated into the minutes in a 
timely manner.

73,
Pat, wb0egr

brettham at aol.com wrote:
> Pat,
>
> After I said that I would add your comments to the minutes, I did not 
> receive any text from you to be included. If you send it in an email, 
> I will be happy to include your comments in the minutes.
>
> Brett
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wb0egr <wb0egr at comcast.net>
> To: MRIC at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [MRIC] Minutes for 4-26-08
>
>
> Brett, 
>  
> At the MRIC Meeting on April 26, 2008, you indicated to the group that 
> you would enter into the minutes the reasons why both the Baltimore 
> County RO and I stated that we would not be participating in the 
> Winlink2000 "deployment" should the recommendation be adopted by the 
> Maryland Emergency Managers Association, and should it ever be funded. 
> In reading the minutes I do not see any mention made as to why the 
> Harford and Baltimore County ROs are not planning to either deploy or 
> participate in the Winlink2000 deployment. Please enter our reasons 
> into the minutes/record and resend them to the MRIC members in a 
> timely manner. 
>  
> 73, 
> Pat Scolla, WB0EGR 
> Harford County RO & EC 
>  
> brettham at aol.com wrote: 
>> All Maryland RACES Officers: 
>>  
>> Please find below the proposed minutes for the MRIC meeting held this 
> > past Saturday April 26, 2008. Thank you all for attending. We had a 
> > very good turnout of 17 jurisdictions. 
>>  
>> Unfortunately we did not get as much accomplished as we have at > 
> previous meetings due to the very long debate over motions to reverse 
> > the actions of the previous meeting, and over quorum. Both of which 
> > failed to pass. 
>>  
>> We also did not complete our review of the "Recommended Amateur Radio 
> > Capabilities for Maryland Jurisdictions" document, which means that 
> > jurisdictions implementing new Winlink2000 email capabilities this > 
> year to support the Maryland RACES Data Network (MRDN) will have no > 
> guidence material from MRIC. 
>>  
>> It was also the first time our meeting ran 30 minutes late. I hope 
> our > next meeting is more productive. 
>>  
>> Sincerely, 
>>  
>> Brett Hammond 
>> Chairman, MRIC 
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>  
>> Maryland RACES Interoperability Committee (MRIC) Meeting Minutes for 
>> April 26, 2008: 
>>  
>>  
>> James Devilbiss (Frederick) hosted the meeting at the Frederick EOC. 
> > Thanks James. Also thanks to Fred Bader (Montgomery) for bringing the
>> projector. 
>>  
>>  
>> The meeting was called to order at 10:30. The following ROs (or their 
>> representative) were in attendance: 
>>  
>> Allegany - Bill Tucker 
>> Anne Arundel - Frank Winner 
>> Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski 
>> Baltimore City - Lou Linden 
>> Caroline - 
>> Carroll - 
>> Calvert - Les Dickey 
>> Cecil - Ted Wallace 
>> Charles - 
>> Dorchester - 
>> Frederick - Jim Devilbiss 
>> Garrett - 
>> Harford - Pat Scolla 
>> Howard - John Wilson 
>> Kent - Bob Lovell 
>> MEMA - Al FitzSimons 
>> Montgomery - Fred Bader 
>> Ocean City 
>> Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg 
>> Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell 
>> Somerset - 
>> St. Mary’s - Ray Brown 
>> Talbot - Brett Hammond 
>> Washington - Bob Long 
>> Wicomico - 
>>  
>> The jurisdictions listed above with no name, did not send a > 
> representative. 
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> The following agenda was reviewed and approved by unanimous consent, 
>> without objection: 
>>  
>>  
>> Welcome 
>> Attendance 
>> Review Agenda 
>> Approval of Minutes 
>> Updated MD RO Contact List 
>> COMMEX Admin Report 
>> Update on Yahoo group for file sharing - Fred Bader 
>> Presentation on when to use 40/60/80-meter bands by Chuck Hodel 
>> Lunch 
>> MRDN Network Architecture 
>> Existing Winlink Equipment and Cost 
>> MRDN Recommended Equipment List and Cost 
>> MRDN Technical Support Group - Call for volunteers 
>> EOC Recommended Equipment List and Cost 
>> Next Meeting Agenda 
>> Adjourn 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Motion by Pat (Harford) that we vacate (make null and void) the votes 
> > for Chairman and Winlink2000 recommendations, and any other votes 
> that > occurred at the January MRIC meeting. 
>> Seconded by Joe (Baltimore Co). 
>>  
>> Roll call vote was taken: 
>>  
>> Abstain - Allegany - Bill Tucker 
>> No - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner 
>> Yes - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski 
>> No - Baltimore City - Lou Linden 
>> No - Calvert - Les Dickey 
>> Abstain - Cecil - Ted Wallace 
>> No - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss 
>> Yes - Harford - Pat Scolla 
>> No - Howard - John Wilson 
>> No - Kent - Bob Lovell 
>> No - MEMA - Al FitzSimons 
>> No - Montgomery - Fred Bader 
>> Yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg 
>> No - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell 
>> No - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown 
>> No - Talbot - Brett Hammond 
>> No - Washington - Bob Long 
>>  
>> 12 - No 
>> 3 - Yes 
>> 2 - Abstain 
>> Motion Failed. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Motion by Bob Lovell (Kent) to accept the minutes. Seconded by Pat > 
> (Harford). 
>>  
>> Roll call vote was taken: 
>>  
>> yes - Allegany - Bill Tucker 
>> yes - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner 
>> no - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski 
>> yes - Baltimore City - Lou Linden 
>> yes - Calvert - Les Dickey 
>> yes - Cecil - Ted Wallace 
>> yes - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss 
>> no - Harford - Pat Scolla 
>> yes - Howard - John Wilson 
>> yes - Kent - Bob Lovell 
>> yes - MEMA - Al FitzSimons 
>> yes - Montgomery - Fred Bader 
>> yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg 
>> yes - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell 
>> yes - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown 
>> yes - Talbot - Brett Hammond 
>> yes - Washington - Bob Long 
>>  
>> 15 Yes 
>> 2 No 
>> Motion passed. Minutes are accepted. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Dan (PG) motions that we request the Maryland Emergency Management > 
> Association to revise our charter to reflect that all interoperability 
> > issues require a 2/3 vote of a quorum, and that a quorum is defined 
> as > 2/3 of the average of the attendence of the previous 3 meetings. 
>> Seconded by Pat (Harford). 
>>  
>> A roll call vote was taken: 
>>  
>> Abstain - Allegany - Bill Tucker 
>> Yes - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner 
>> Yes - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski 
>> No - Baltimore City - Lou Linden 
>> No - Calvert - Les Dickey 
>> No - Cecil - Ted Wallace 
>> yes - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss 
>> Yes - Harford - Pat Scolla 
>> Abstain - Howard - John Wilson 
>> No - Kent - Bob Lovell 
>> No - MEMA - Al FitzSimons 
>> No - Montgomery - Fred Bader 
>> Yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg 
>> No - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell 
>> Yes - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown 
>> No - Talbot - Brett Hammond 
>> No - Washington - Bob Long 
>>  
>> 6 yes 
>> 9 no 
>> 2 abstain 
>>  
>> Motion failed. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> The RACES Officer Contact Info was updated, reviewed and accepted by 
>> unanimous consent. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Al FitzSimons (MEMA) explained how to properly fill out a > 
> Communications Exercise (COMMEX) Administrative Report to be sent to > 
> MEMA following our monthly drills. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Fred Bader (Montgomery) presented and demonstrated the MRIC web site 
> > he created on Yahoo.com for storing our documents. He agreed to > 
> distribute the instructions and links via the MRIC email reflector. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> There was some discussion on interference on our 80-meter net > 
> frequency, so Dan (PG) agreed to look for new 80-meter frequency for > 
> discussion at our next meeting. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Chuck (QA) provided handout material with recommendations on what > 
> times of day to use which band (40/60/80). Chuck also agreed to > 
> provide the material in electronic form. Ray (St. Marys) motions to > 
> accept Chuck's report on propagation with one change: 2KHz to 3KHz. > 
> Seconded by Ted (Cecil). 
>> Passed. Unanimous voice vote. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> There was discussion on the network architecture of the Maryland 
> RACES > Data Network (MRDN) established in the January MRIC meeting, 
> and that > employes Winlink2000 email. Most jurisdictions present 
> expressed a > desire to create a local VHF or UHF Winlink network in 
> their area, > with one or more HF links to provide a fail-safe 
> Internet connection > outside the affected area during a 
> communications outage. Harford and > Baltimore counties indicated they 
> would not be participating. 
>>  
>> This information provides guidence or a path to move forward with > 
> deployment of equipment as manpower and money permits. A more detailed
>> report will be distributed separately from these minutes. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> MRIC discussed the "Recommended Amateur Radio Capabilities for > 
> Maryland Jurisdictions" document distributed earlier for review. There 
> > was much discussion and debate about the Appendix providing guidance 
> > material on what equipment is recommended for Winlink and voice > 
> operations. The debate was not focused on what equipment to recommend, 
> > but on whether to recommend specific equipment (or comparable), or 
> not > to list any specific equipment by name at all. 
>>  
>> Motion made by Ted (Cecil) to table discussion on Recommended Amateur 
>> Radio Capabilities document. Seconded Dan (PG). 
>> Motion passed by unanimous voice vote. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Volunteers were solicited to provide Technical Support to those > 
> attempting to establish a Winlink station for the MRDN. Dan (PG) and > 
> Ray (St. Marys) volunteered. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Lou (Baltimore City) motioned to change the November meeting date 
> from > Nov 15 to Nov 22, 2008. Seconded Dan (PG). 
>>  
>> 10 yes. 
>> 0 no. 
>>  
>> Please update your schedules. The November 22, 2008 meeting is > 
> currently scheduled for QA EOC in Centerville. If you have any > 
> objections to the location, please express them now. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Pat (Harford) will send email about operating field day from the EOC 
>> for those interested. 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> The following Agenda was proposed by the group for the November MRIC 
>> meeting: 
>>  
>> Discussion on HF net time-of-day per band 
>> Discussion on HF Net schedule 
>> Discussion on whether or not to use 60-meters. 
>> Discuss Recommended Amateur Radio Capabilities document 
>> Winlink Frequency List - Ray 
>> 80 meter frequency - Dan 
>> Elections (nominations via email in advance or at Nov mtg) 
>> Update Freq list 
>> 2009 Meeting Schedule 
>> Discussion on interoperability drills (including simplex) 
>>  
>> --------------------------------------------------------- 
>>  
>> Dan (PG) motioned to adjourn, James (Frederick) seconded. Motioned > 
> passed at 15:30. 
>>  
>> -------------- end of minutes --------------- 
>> ______________________________________________________________ 
>> This email list is for the use of RACES Officers and Emergency > 
> Managers. Only email related to the Maryland RACES Interoperability > 
> Committee (MRIC) of the Maryland Emergency Management Association > 
> should be sent to this email reflector list. All emails must be in > 
> plain text format (no HTML). 
>> MRIC mailing list 
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/mric 
>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmmain.htm 
>> Post: mailto:MRIC at mailman.qth.net 
>>  
>>  
>  
> ______________________________________________________________ 
> This email list is for the use of RACES Officers and Emergency 
> Managers. Only email related to the Maryland RACES Interoperability 
> Committee (MRIC) of the Maryland Emergency Management Association 
> should be sent to this email reflector list. All emails must be in 
> plain text format (no HTML). 
> MRIC mailing list 
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/mric 
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmmain.htm 
> Post: mailto:MRIC at mailman.qth.net 
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> This email list is for the use of RACES Officers and Emergency 
> Managers. Only email related to the Maryland RACES Interoperability 
> Committee (MRIC) of the Maryland Emergency Management Association 
> should be sent to this email reflector list. All emails must be in 
> plain text format (no HTML).
> MRIC mailing list
> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/mric
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmmain.htm
> Post: mailto:MRIC at mailman.qth.net
>
>