[MRIC] Minutes for 4-26-08
brettham at aol.com
brettham at aol.com
Tue Apr 29 09:22:12 EDT 2008
Pat,
After I said that I would add your comments to the minutes, I did not
receive any text from you to be included. If you send it in an email, I
will be happy to include your comments in the minutes.
Brett
-----Original Message-----
From: wb0egr <wb0egr at comcast.net>
To: MRIC at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MRIC] Minutes for 4-26-08
Brett,
At the MRIC Meeting on April 26, 2008, you indicated to the group that
you would enter into the minutes the reasons why both the Baltimore
County RO and I stated that we would not be participating in the
Winlink2000 "deployment" should the recommendation be adopted by the
Maryland Emergency Managers Association, and should it ever be funded.
In reading the minutes I do not see any mention made as to why the
Harford and Baltimore County ROs are not planning to either deploy or
participate in the Winlink2000 deployment. Please enter our reasons
into the minutes/record and resend them to the MRIC members in a timely
manner.
73,
Pat Scolla, WB0EGR
Harford County RO & EC
brettham at aol.com wrote:
> All Maryland RACES Officers:
>
> Please find below the proposed minutes for the MRIC meeting held this
> past Saturday April 26, 2008. Thank you all for attending. We had a >
very good turnout of 17 jurisdictions.
>
> Unfortunately we did not get as much accomplished as we have at >
previous meetings due to the very long debate over motions to reverse >
the actions of the previous meeting, and over quorum. Both of which >
failed to pass.
>
> We also did not complete our review of the "Recommended Amateur Radio
> Capabilities for Maryland Jurisdictions" document, which means that >
jurisdictions implementing new Winlink2000 email capabilities this >
year to support the Maryland RACES Data Network (MRDN) will have no >
guidence material from MRIC.
>
> It was also the first time our meeting ran 30 minutes late. I hope
our > next meeting is more productive.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brett Hammond
> Chairman, MRIC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Maryland RACES Interoperability Committee (MRIC) Meeting Minutes for
> April 26, 2008:
>
>
> James Devilbiss (Frederick) hosted the meeting at the Frederick EOC.
> Thanks James. Also thanks to Fred Bader (Montgomery) for bringing the
> projector.
>
>
> The meeting was called to order at 10:30. The following ROs (or their
> representative) were in attendance:
>
> Allegany - Bill Tucker
> Anne Arundel - Frank Winner
> Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski
> Baltimore City - Lou Linden
> Caroline -
> Carroll -
> Calvert - Les Dickey
> Cecil - Ted Wallace
> Charles -
> Dorchester -
> Frederick - Jim Devilbiss
> Garrett -
> Harford - Pat Scolla
> Howard - John Wilson
> Kent - Bob Lovell
> MEMA - Al FitzSimons
> Montgomery - Fred Bader
> Ocean City
> Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg
> Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell
> Somerset -
> St. Mary’s - Ray Brown
> Talbot - Brett Hammond
> Washington - Bob Long
> Wicomico -
>
> The jurisdictions listed above with no name, did not send a >
representative.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> The following agenda was reviewed and approved by unanimous consent,
> without objection:
>
>
> Welcome
> Attendance
> Review Agenda
> Approval of Minutes
> Updated MD RO Contact List
> COMMEX Admin Report
> Update on Yahoo group for file sharing - Fred Bader
> Presentation on when to use 40/60/80-meter bands by Chuck Hodel
> Lunch
> MRDN Network Architecture
> Existing Winlink Equipment and Cost
> MRDN Recommended Equipment List and Cost
> MRDN Technical Support Group - Call for volunteers
> EOC Recommended Equipment List and Cost
> Next Meeting Agenda
> Adjourn
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Motion by Pat (Harford) that we vacate (make null and void) the votes
> for Chairman and Winlink2000 recommendations, and any other votes
that > occurred at the January MRIC meeting.
> Seconded by Joe (Baltimore Co).
>
> Roll call vote was taken:
>
> Abstain - Allegany - Bill Tucker
> No - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner
> Yes - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski
> No - Baltimore City - Lou Linden
> No - Calvert - Les Dickey
> Abstain - Cecil - Ted Wallace
> No - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss
> Yes - Harford - Pat Scolla
> No - Howard - John Wilson
> No - Kent - Bob Lovell
> No - MEMA - Al FitzSimons
> No - Montgomery - Fred Bader
> Yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg
> No - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell
> No - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown
> No - Talbot - Brett Hammond
> No - Washington - Bob Long
>
> 12 - No
> 3 - Yes
> 2 - Abstain
> Motion Failed.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Motion by Bob Lovell (Kent) to accept the minutes. Seconded by Pat >
(Harford).
>
> Roll call vote was taken:
>
> yes - Allegany - Bill Tucker
> yes - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner
> no - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski
> yes - Baltimore City - Lou Linden
> yes - Calvert - Les Dickey
> yes - Cecil - Ted Wallace
> yes - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss
> no - Harford - Pat Scolla
> yes - Howard - John Wilson
> yes - Kent - Bob Lovell
> yes - MEMA - Al FitzSimons
> yes - Montgomery - Fred Bader
> yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg
> yes - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell
> yes - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown
> yes - Talbot - Brett Hammond
> yes - Washington - Bob Long
>
> 15 Yes
> 2 No
> Motion passed. Minutes are accepted.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Dan (PG) motions that we request the Maryland Emergency Management >
Association to revise our charter to reflect that all interoperability
> issues require a 2/3 vote of a quorum, and that a quorum is defined
as > 2/3 of the average of the attendence of the previous 3 meetings.
> Seconded by Pat (Harford).
>
> A roll call vote was taken:
>
> Abstain - Allegany - Bill Tucker
> Yes - Anne Arundel - Frank Winner
> Yes - Baltimore County - Joe Krysztoforski
> No - Baltimore City - Lou Linden
> No - Calvert - Les Dickey
> No - Cecil - Ted Wallace
> yes - Frederick - Jim Devilbiss
> Yes - Harford - Pat Scolla
> Abstain - Howard - John Wilson
> No - Kent - Bob Lovell
> No - MEMA - Al FitzSimons
> No - Montgomery - Fred Bader
> Yes - Prince George’s - Dan Blasberg
> No - Queen Anne’s - Chuck Hodell
> Yes - St. Mary’s - Ray Brown
> No - Talbot - Brett Hammond
> No - Washington - Bob Long
>
> 6 yes
> 9 no
> 2 abstain
>
> Motion failed.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> The RACES Officer Contact Info was updated, reviewed and accepted by
> unanimous consent.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Al FitzSimons (MEMA) explained how to properly fill out a >
Communications Exercise (COMMEX) Administrative Report to be sent to >
MEMA following our monthly drills.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Fred Bader (Montgomery) presented and demonstrated the MRIC web site
> he created on Yahoo.com for storing our documents. He agreed to >
distribute the instructions and links via the MRIC email reflector.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> There was some discussion on interference on our 80-meter net >
frequency, so Dan (PG) agreed to look for new 80-meter frequency for >
discussion at our next meeting.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Chuck (QA) provided handout material with recommendations on what >
times of day to use which band (40/60/80). Chuck also agreed to >
provide the material in electronic form. Ray (St. Marys) motions to >
accept Chuck's report on propagation with one change: 2KHz to 3KHz. >
Seconded by Ted (Cecil).
> Passed. Unanimous voice vote.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> There was discussion on the network architecture of the Maryland
RACES > Data Network (MRDN) established in the January MRIC meeting,
and that > employes Winlink2000 email. Most jurisdictions present
expressed a > desire to create a local VHF or UHF Winlink network in
their area, > with one or more HF links to provide a fail-safe Internet
connection > outside the affected area during a communications outage.
Harford and > Baltimore counties indicated they would not be
participating.
>
> This information provides guidence or a path to move forward with >
deployment of equipment as manpower and money permits. A more detailed
> report will be distributed separately from these minutes.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> MRIC discussed the "Recommended Amateur Radio Capabilities for >
Maryland Jurisdictions" document distributed earlier for review. There
> was much discussion and debate about the Appendix providing guidance
> material on what equipment is recommended for Winlink and voice >
operations. The debate was not focused on what equipment to recommend,
> but on whether to recommend specific equipment (or comparable), or
not > to list any specific equipment by name at all.
>
> Motion made by Ted (Cecil) to table discussion on Recommended Amateur
> Radio Capabilities document. Seconded Dan (PG).
> Motion passed by unanimous voice vote.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Volunteers were solicited to provide Technical Support to those >
attempting to establish a Winlink station for the MRDN. Dan (PG) and >
Ray (St. Marys) volunteered.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Lou (Baltimore City) motioned to change the November meeting date
from > Nov 15 to Nov 22, 2008. Seconded Dan (PG).
>
> 10 yes.
> 0 no.
>
> Please update your schedules. The November 22, 2008 meeting is >
currently scheduled for QA EOC in Centerville. If you have any >
objections to the location, please express them now.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Pat (Harford) will send email about operating field day from the EOC
> for those interested.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> The following Agenda was proposed by the group for the November MRIC
> meeting:
>
> Discussion on HF net time-of-day per band
> Discussion on HF Net schedule
> Discussion on whether or not to use 60-meters.
> Discuss Recommended Amateur Radio Capabilities document
> Winlink Frequency List - Ray
> 80 meter frequency - Dan
> Elections (nominations via email in advance or at Nov mtg)
> Update Freq list
> 2009 Meeting Schedule
> Discussion on interoperability drills (including simplex)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Dan (PG) motioned to adjourn, James (Frederick) seconded. Motioned >
passed at 15:30.
>
> -------------- end of minutes ---------------
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