[MRIC] RACES 72-hour rule

BrettHam at aol.com BrettHam at aol.com
Mon Jul 23 10:51:05 EDT 2007


Pat,

I forwarded your email to Mr. Cross at the FCC for response,  and he does not 
want to reply and enter into a debate. He believes he has made  it very clear 
that the local jurisdiction needs to get prior approval from the  state in 
order to exceed 1 hour. For example, when I asked him in the  email below:

>> Suppose, instead, I was conducting a local drill just   involving  Talbot 
>> County, but that exceeded 1 hour per week.  Would  I also need to get 
prior  
> approval from the  state of Maryland?
 
His response below was "Yes...." and then goes on to support his "yes"  
response. 
 
He also will not address quotes from him taken out of context. And his  
understanding of "state" and "territory" is the same as mine: Maryland is a  State; 
Puerto Rico is a Territory (a county is not a territory); Washington DC  is a 
District; and Pennsylvania is a Commonwealth. Since we live in a  state, we 
must get permission for the appropriate STATE agency responsible for  
emergencies (MEMA) to exceed 1 hour. RACES groups operating anywhere in  Districts, 
Commonwealths or Territories need to get permission from their  District, 
Commonwealth or Territory level agency to exceed 1 hour.
 
If you still disagree, I don't know what else to say. I suggest you discuss  
this with your EM and/or his attorney for further clarification.
 
Brett Hammond - K3TAL
Chairman, MRIC


In a message dated 7/20/2007 11:20:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wb0egr at comcast.net writes:
Brett,

One, this goes against the concept  of "home rule" in Maryland whereby 
the counties and emergency management  jurisdictions are "independent" 
and do not need state approval to do  something such as invoking the 72 
hour RACES rule.  In this case, a  county would fall under the 
"territory" terminology that Mr. Cross  uses.

Two, I refer you back to the May 11, 2007 e-mail from AJ3X where  Mr. 
Cross states "...Because there can be local, state, regional, tribal,  
etc., RACES organizations, the "however" part of your questions isn't  
addressed by the rules. And we aren't going to get into squabbles like  
"then and only then" about "who has authority" between local and state  
level CDOs or what the organization is."

So Brett, until Part 97.407  gets updated so that it no longer reflects 
the "cold war era" where  emergency management was the red haired step 
child left to the upper levels  of government, then we shall have to live 
with the concept that "...whomever  gives life to the RACES group, also 
grants them the 72 hour  permissions..."

If MEMA directs Harford County RACES to activate, then  they will need to 
ask the Harford County Emergency Manager(s) to activate  the RACES group 
within Harford County and explain why because it is the  Harford County 
Emergency Management and Civil Government, not MEMA, that  allows RACES 
to exist in Harford County. 

Oh, and by all means,  Harford County RACES will and does fully cooperate 
with any and all other  RACES groups in the surrounding jurisdictions 
when there are  incidents.

73,
Pat Scolla, wb0egr
Harford County RACES  Officer



BrettHam at aol.com wrote:
> Pat,
>
> I  believe you are mistaken. In my second email to him, I  specifically 
asked  
> if I just held a local Talbot County Drill just involving  Talbot  County, 
do I 
> need permission from the state to exceed 1 hour, and  Mr.  Cross responded 
> "Yes". He said it doesn't matter the scope of  the drill, it is  only the 
time 
> that matters. If you exceed 1 hour  per week, you need state  permission. 
He also 
> specifically said in  his first response: "The rule does not  allow a local 
>  jurisdiction's emergency manager to approve drills and tests that  exceed 
1  hour 
> per week."
>
> Brett Hammond
>
> In a  message dated  7/19/2007 10:59:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>  wb0egr at comcast.net  writes:
> Brett,
>
> To clarify, ONLY  in a STATE-RUN Drill, does this apply  because the STATE 
> is asking  Talbot County RACES to activate.  In the  case of a Talbot 
>  County ONLY exercise, then the 72 hour exception is granted  by the  
> Talbot County EM.
>
> 73,
>
> Pat Scolla,   wb0egr
>
> BrettHam at aol.com wrote:
>   
>>  Maryland RACES  Officers:
>>  
>> Please find below  the complete exchange between  the FCC and I to clarify 
  
>>     
> the 
>    
>> debate we had earlier this year at  MRIC about whether or not  RACES  
drills 
>> exceeding one hour require  state (MEMA)  approval. The short answer  is 
>>      
> that a 
>   
>> drill over 1  hour does  requires MEMA approval. Please see details  below 
 
>>     
> if you 
>    
>>  are interested. Feel free to share this with others, but  please do  not  
>>     
> edit  
>   
>> it or excerpt parts. Keep the comments in  proper context.  Thank  you.
>>  
>> Brett  Hammond
>> Chairman,  MRIC
>>  
>>   --------------------------------------------------------------
>> In  a  message dated 7/19/2007 3:23:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   
>>  William.Cross at fcc.gov writes:
>>
>>  Yes--the last sentence of the rule  allows exceptions, up to twice a   
year 
>>     
> and 
>    
>> capped at 72 hours per  time, to the hour-per-week rule, when  the chief  
>> officer for  emergency planning in the  applicable State, Commonwealth, 
>>     
>  District  or  
>   
>> territory, approves.  The rules does not distinguish between local  drills 
 
>>     
> and  
>    
>> state, regional, or some other geographic area  drills.   It distinguishes 
 
>> between drills that do not exceed  1  hour per week and those that  do.    
   
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From:   brettham at aol.com [mailto:brettham at aol.com] 
>> Sent:  Thursday, July 19,  2007  2:24 PM
>> To: William  Cross
>> Cc: Riley  Hollingsworth
>> Subject: Re:  RACES  72-hour rule
>>
>> Mr.   Cross,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your prompt    response.
>>
>> Suppose, instead, I was conducting a local  drill just  involving  Talbot 
>> County, but that exceeded 1  hour per week. Would  I also need to get 
prior   
>>     
> approval 
>    
>> from the state of Maryland?  Sorry if this sounds redundant,  but I want  
to 
>> make sure there is  no confusion. Thank  you.
>>
>> Brett    Hammond
>>
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: William  Cross   <William.Cross at fcc.gov>
>> To: BrettHam at aol.com
>>   Cc: Riley Hollingsworth  <Riley.Hollingsworth at fcc.gov>
>>  Sent:  Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:26  am
>> Subject: RE: RACES  72-hour  rule
>>
>> Mr. Hammond:
>>
>>  Riley asked  that I  respond to your question.  The rule that you  are 
>> referring to  is  Section 97.407(e)(4).  It  states:
>>
>> (e) All  communications  transmitted  in RACES must be specifically 
>>     
>  authorized  
>   
>> by the civil defense   organization for the area served. Only civil  
defense 
>>  communications of the  following types may be   transmitted:
>>
>> (4)  Communications for RACES   training  drills and tests necessary to 
>> ensure the  establishment and   maintenance of orderly and efficient 
>>  operation of the RACES as ordered  by  the responsible civil defense  
>> organization served. Such drills  and tests may  not  exceed a total time 
>> of 1 hour per week. With  the approval of  the chief  officer for 
>> emergency planning in the   applicable State, Commonwealth,  District or 
>> territory,  however,  such tests and drills may be conducted for a  period 
 
>> not to exceed  72 hours no more than twice in any calendar  year  
>> (emphasis  added.)
>>
>> The rule  allows a lot of flexibility for  management  of civil defense  
>> communications at different levels of  organization in  that  it allows 
>> "the responsible civil defense   organization served" which, in  turn, 
>> depends on how civil  defense  is organized in a particular area, to  
>> decide  what communications  RACES stations are authorized to transmit 
>>  for  tests and drills  not exceeding 1 hour per week.  The last  sentence 
 
>> allows  exceptions, up to twice a year and  capped at 72 hours per 
>> time,   to the hour-per-week rule,  when the chief officer for emergency 
>>  planning in  the  applicable State, Commonwealth, District or territory,  
>>  approves.   Because civil defense was and still is overseen  at  the 
>> State, Commonwealth,  District or territory level,  the  
>> Commission decided that the chief officer  for  emergency planning  at 
>> that level should be the one to decide  whether  exceptions to  the the 
>> hour-per-week rule are  appropriate.  
>>
>>  In  that Talbot County  RACES will be participating in the state-wide  
>> DHMH   pandemic drill, the "area served" appears to be the State of  
>>  Maryland and  the "responsible civil defense organization for the   area 
>> served" appears to  be the  DHMH, a state agency,  in  collaboration with 
>> the Maryland  Emergency  Management  Association.  As written, the rule 
>> allows  only  "the chief  officer for emergency planning in the State" to  
>> approve drills   and tests in excess of 1 hour per  week.  The rule does 
>> not allow  a  local  jurisdiction's emergency manager to approve drills 
>> and  tests  that  exceed 1 hour per week.  Note that in other paragraphs   
>> of the rule the  phrase, "a [or the] civil defense  organization"  is 
>> used.  This is  broader than  "State, Commonwealth,  District or 
>> territory" in that it   includes local or national  civil defense 
>> organizations,  thereby comporting  with the  definition of RACES in 
>>  Section 97.3(a)(37)-- A radio service  using  amateur stations for  civil 
>> defense communications during  periods of local,   regional or national 
>> civil emergencies  (emphasis  added.)   
>>
>> William T. Cross
>>  Mobility  Division
>> Wireless Telecommunications   Bureau
>> Federal  Communications   Commission
>>
>>  
>>      
>  
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    
>>  --------
>> From:  BrettHam at aol.com  [mailto:BrettHam at aol.com]
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007  9:53  AM
>> To: Riley  Hollingsworth
>> Cc: William  Cross
>> Subject: RACES 72-hour    rule
>>
>> Hello Riley,
>>
>> Let me  introduce myself:   I have a  commercial radio license (GROL) and  
>> professionally  maintain public safety  radio systems in  Maryland. I am 
>> also an  Amateur Extra and volunteer as  RACES  Officer for Talbot County 
>>  for the past 5 years. I  got into amateur and  commercial radio because  
>> of my  desire to get involved in emergency  communications after  9/11.  
>> Prior to that I was a telecommunications software    engineer.
>>
>> Early this year, the Maryland Emergency  Management  Association  created 
>> a new subcommittee  called the Maryland RACES  Interoperability  Committee 
>>  (MRIC), and I was appointed Chairman.  It consists of all the RACES   
>> Officers in the state and so far  this year we have  unanimously agreed 
>> on  a standard message form  for  communicating across jurisdictions 
>> (ICS-213),  coordinated  all  our RACES frequencies, and compiled contact 
>> information  for  RACES  Officers state-wide. We are currently working on, 
 
>> and expect to  have  completed a state-wide HF RACES net  by November (as 
>> a backup  to repeaters on  towers) and  will start work on a state-wide 
>>  digital network   then.
>>
>> Talbot County RACES will be  participating in  the state-wide DHMH  
>> pandemic drill in two weeks,  and  will exceed the 1 hour per week  
>> exercise rule. It is my   understanding from the FCC rules that we can  
>> exceed 1 hour,  two  times per year, up to 72 hours each time. I applied  
>>  for, and was  granted permission from MEMA to exceed 1 hour for the   
>> Eastern  Shore Evacuation exercise a few months ago, and was  going to  
>>  request permission for the Pandemic drill as  well, but there was some   
>> discussion from MRIC members  that permission from the local   
>> jurisdiction's emergency  manager is all that is required (i.e. we do  
>> not  need  permission from MEMA). Again, my understanding is that  the 
>>  state,  territory, commonwealth, etc, must give permission.  Can you  
>> please clarify  this for us?
>>
>> I  will  forward this email and your response to all Maryland  RACES  
>>  Officers so we are all on the same page. Also please tell us  about  your 
 
>> responsibilities at the FCC so everyone  understands your   authority.
>>
>> Thank you very  much for your time. I know you are a  busy man,  but your 
>>  guidance here would help us  greatly.
>>
>> Brett Hammond  -  K3TAL
>> Talbot County RACES  Officer
>>  Chairman, MRIC
>> 410-829-6749  (cell)
>>   _brettham at aol.com_ (mailto:brettham at aol.com)  
>>
 



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