[Milsurplus] NIST FY 2019 Budget Would Eliminate WWV and WWVH

Bob kb8tq kb8tq at n1k.org
Sat Aug 18 12:24:59 EDT 2018


Hi

Apparently it cost $6.2 million. 

Bob

> On Aug 18, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Peter Gottlieb <kb2vtl at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How much does WWV cost per year to operate?
> 
> Maybe a go-fund-me on steroids involving some corporate sponsorships?  If we get a more science-friendly administration they might only need to hang on a couple more years. 
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq at n1k.org <mailto:kb8tq at n1k.org>> wrote:
> 
>> HI
>> 
>> The “commercialize it” idea was at the heat of a couple of navigation systems. Essentially every user would pay
>> a monthly license fee for usage of the system. The more they pay, the better the precision gets. Pay enough per 
>> month and they would get as good as GPS. 
>> 
>> For some odd reason, even the projections of customers ( which usually are wildly optimistic) never got very large ….
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2018, at 9:33 PM, radioman390--- via Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <mailto:milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but GPS can be jammed and disabled by solar storms, etc etc. It's always nice to have a backup, but maybe commercialize it? Sell commercials?
>>> Notice that WWVL on 60 khz is not proposed for deletion. It provides time signals in a digital mode for all those "world's most accuate watch, clock, display, etc"   Oregon Scientific would go bankrupt
>>> 
>>> Better listen to this first.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpsPgXyIm8 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpsPgXyIm8>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz at gmail.com <mailto:dickw1ksz at gmail.com>>
>>> To: MilSurplus <Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net <mailto:Milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>>
>>> Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2018 8:31 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] NIST FY 2019 Budget Would Eliminate WWV and WWVH
>>> 
>>> Since GPS provides a much more 
>>> accurate source for Time and 
>>> Frequency signals, I personally think 
>>> it is time to retire this relic of the 
>>> "Olde Dayes".
>>> 
>>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:17 PM Brad <warbird.radios at exchangenet.net <mailto:warbird.radios at exchangenet.net>> wrote:
>>> Some of you may rely on WWV or WWVH for precise time signals or for frequency calibration of mil and ham gear. 
>>> 
>>> According to the NIST website, we as a community may lose this service due to a proposed budget cut for FY 2019.  
>>>     https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/fundamental-measurement-quantum-science-and <https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/fundamental-measurement-quantum-science-and>
>>> Scroll down to section on Illustrative program reductions in FY 2019
>>> 
>>> Also reported in ARRL Letter for August 16th  and on SWLing Post website
>>>     https://swling.com/blog/2018/08/nist-fy2019-budget-includes-request-to-shutdown-wwv-and-wwvh/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheSwlingPost+%28The+SWLing+Post%29 <https://swling.com/blog/2018/08/nist-fy2019-budget-includes-request-to-shutdown-wwv-and-wwvh/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheSwlingPost+%28The+SWLing+Post%29>
>>> 
>>> If this post is inappropriate, I sincerely apologize.
>>> 
>>> Brad KD7GDT
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