[Milsurplus] "What's Old is New..."

[Bruce Gentry]

A good film with a powerful warning.  The computer installation reminded 
me of the underground machine complex scene in "Forbidden Planet", a 
film with different warning- from Shakespeare no less!.

          Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY

On 8/8/17 10:56 AM, ersmar wrote:
> See "Collosus - The Forbin Project. "
>
> 73 de
> Gene Smar AD3F
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: J Mcvey via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: 08/08/2017 9:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: David Stinson 
> <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>,milsurplus at mailman.qth.net,ARC-5 
> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] "What's Old is New..."
>
>
> David,
>
> I look at the modern military communications and have often wondered 
> the same thing.
> Everything is satellite and digital.  If a hostile power wants to put 
> our military out of business,
> all they have to do is blow up the satellites! Most critical 
> communications and GPS will be gone.
>
> I may be incorrect, but I think most of the HF, vhf and Uhf ground 
> radios are being replaced by satcom.
> NAto still uses them, but new generation US equipment is mostly microwave.
>
> We will end up using obsolete equipment in battle like the low-tech  
> battle star Galactica was the only ship to survive the Cylon computer 
> virus. Life imitating art?
>
> Also , last year,Elon Musk sounded expressed concern about AI 
> technology getting out of control. He said that he that the Terminator 
> movie may end up being prophetic if we are not careful.
> Now a recent Facebook AI experiment was shut down. The AI computers in 
> the experiment were supposed to communicate with each other in english 
> so that engineers could monitor the inter-system communication. 
> However, after a while, the machines developed their own language to 
> communicate with each other instead of english. The engineers could 
> not decipher it , so they pulled the plug!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:21 AM, David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Interesting article.   After several debilitating “hacks” and spoofs 
> of their
> complex, IP-based, computer dependent Comm, Command and Control
> contributed to incidents like the Iranian capture of two U.S. Navy craft
> in the Persian Gulf and U.S. Drones being spoofed into enemy hands,
> the U.S. military is investigating non-computer (and thus unhackable)
> Radio-based communication and  navigation systems.
> Also- the threat of an EMP and/or Anti-Sat attack as a “first strike”
> is now seen as a real and potentially crippling threat.
> Seems my Star Trek hero, Scotty, was right:
>
>      “The more complicated they make the plumbing,
>       the easier it is to stop-up the drain.”
> "What's old is new again." Wonder if they will "discover" the simple,
> very cheap and effective mode that can get a message through
> when all the fancy computer stuff is hacked or fried: Morse Code.
> Article:
> http://tinyurl.com/y8cpjlph
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