[Milsurplus] "What's Old is New..."

Tue Aug 8 21:51:43 EDT 2017

"Forbidden Planet" (1957) also included Leslie Nielsen (a Canadian
transplant to Hollywood) before appearing in Disney's "Swamp Fox" (Francis
Marion) series in 1959, 60 and 61 (Charleston, SC folk know him well) and,
of course, Anne Francis before her series "Honey West" in the mid-60s.  

As for "The Forbin Project,"  that movie disturbs me even to this day.  Not
even close to a happy ending.

73 de

Gene Smar  AD3F

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Subject: [Milsurplus] "What's Old is New..."

A good film with a powerful warning.  The computer installation reminded me
of the underground machine complex scene in "Forbidden Planet", a film with
different warning- from Shakespeare no less!.

         Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY

On 8/8/17 10:56 AM, ersmar wrote:

See "Collosus - The Forbin Project. " 

73 de

Gene Smar AD3F

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From: J Mcvey via ARC5  <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>

Date: 08/08/2017 9:52 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: David Stinson  <mailto:arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: [ARC5] "What's Old is New..." 

David,

I look at the modern military communications and have often wondered the
same thing.

Everything is satellite and digital.  If a hostile power wants to put our
military out of business,

all they have to do is blow up the satellites! Most critical communications
and GPS will be gone.

I may be incorrect, but I think most of the HF, vhf and Uhf ground radios
are being replaced by satcom.

NAto still uses them, but new generation US equipment is mostly microwave.

We will end up using obsolete equipment in battle like the low-tech  battle
star Galactica was the only ship to survive the Cylon computer virus. Life
imitating art?

Also , last year,Elon Musk sounded expressed concern about AI technology
getting out of control. He said that he that the Terminator movie may end up
being prophetic if we are not careful.

Now a recent Facebook AI experiment was shut down. The AI computers in the
experiment were supposed to communicate with each other in english so that
engineers could monitor the inter-system communication. However, after a
while, the machines developed their own language to communicate with each
other instead of english. The engineers could not decipher it , so they
pulled the plug!

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 9:21 AM, David Stinson
<mailto:arc5 at ix.netcom.com> <arc5 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Interesting article.   After several debilitating "hacks" and spoofs of
their 

complex, IP-based, computer dependent Comm, Command and Control 

contributed to incidents like the Iranian capture of two U.S. Navy craft

in the Persian Gulf and U.S. Drones being spoofed into enemy hands,

the U.S. military is investigating non-computer (and thus unhackable)

Radio-based communication and  navigation systems.

Also- the threat of an EMP and/or Anti-Sat attack as a "first strike"

is now seen as a real and potentially crippling threat.

Seems my Star Trek hero, Scotty, was right:

     "The more complicated they make the plumbing,

      the easier it is to stop-up the drain."

"What's old is new again." Wonder if they will "discover" the simple, 

very cheap and effective mode that can get a message through

when all the fancy computer stuff is hacked or fried: Morse Code.

Article:
http://tinyurl.com/y8cpjlph

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