[Milsurplus] [Glowbugs] CW "de" ?

[Nick England]

I have a number of publications on line covering US Navy radiotelegraph
procedure at
http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals.htm
Here's what I have found so far -

Through 1952
V is shown as the only prosign meaning "from" and used in hundreds of
example radiotelegraph messages. The only place I have found DE is in
sections on sending naval messages to commercial ships or via commercial
stations.
The 1952 Teleman rate training manual (NAVPERS 10220) is the last place I
have found V so far, but there are more to look through,

from 1958-on
In the 1958 DNC 5(B) publication DE is used and V has disappeared.

So I think everyone is right.
V and not DE was used by US Navy up through the mid-1950s. DE was used
commercially.
DE was used by the US Navy starting sometime in the mid-1950's


Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the input. Which maybe puzzles me even more.
> “Digest of Naval Communications 1928” gives “V” as the ‘from’ signal. So
> when did it change?
>
> I am, i think, on pretty sure ground when i say aviation communications
> used “V” also, as did
>
> Army ground.
>
> -Hue
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> Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 3:29 PM
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> To: tetrode at googlegroups.com
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> Hue,
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> I spent 20 years, in the Navy, as a radioman and we never used "v", always
> "de" 1957-1977
>
> Bob
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> On 6/4/2016 2:29 PM, Hubert Miller wrote:
>
> Why did ham radio adopt the C.W. signal  “de” instead of the “v” used by
> the commercial services and the military?
>
> -Hue Miller
>
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