[Milsurplus] [Glowbugs] CW "de" ?

[Hubert Miller]

Thanks for nailing this down, Nick.  

The 1928 manual i mentioned, which shows message form preparation, shows “V” in the  form’s text BUT the ‘ also shows that the way “from” is sent is by “DE”.

This was a confusing factor to me.

As was reported here, back to the days of the Titanic, it was “DE”. And i looked in a Navy radio manual 1915 and it is “DE” there. 
So i suggest under the demands of WW2, it ‘may’ have been changed to “V” for brevity. Then back to “DE” for the sake of uniformity post-war.

I have to say, i admire the snappy brevity of the aircraft CW traffic. I think a gun observer message for example, could be something as curt as

V B2F U200 AR

 

-Hue Miller

 

>From: Nick England [mailto:navy.radio at gmail.com] 



>I have a number of publications on line covering US Navy radiotelegraph procedure at
http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals.htm

Here's what I have found so far -

 

Through 1952

V is shown as the only prosign meaning "from" and used in hundreds of example radiotelegraph messages. The only place I have found DE is in sections on sending naval messages to commercial ships or via commercial stations.

The 1952 Teleman rate training manual (NAVPERS 10220) is the last place I have found V so far, but there are more to look through,

 

from 1958-on
In the 1958 DNC 5(B) publication DE is used and V has disappeared.

 

So I think everyone is right.

V and not DE was used by US Navy up through the mid-1950s. DE was used commercially.

DE was used by the US Navy starting sometime in the mid-1950's                 


Nick England K4NYW 

 

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