[Milsurplus] photos
Bob Camp
kb8tq at n1k.org
Sun Dec 6 17:17:31 EST 2015
Hi
So, with a 64K limit, most (modern) pictures are going to get nuked at that price…. Yes you
get a benefit from compression. A chunk of that benefit is lost when you translate it to a format
that the mail system is happy with. Typically you have to worry starting at about 48K after compression.
Bob
> On Dec 6, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via Milsurplus <milsurplus at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> Hutch, according to data at the listverv.com site - that is for the
> number of subscribers.
>
> more info - All lists (unless otherwise agreed to) are billed in yearly
> increments. The prices are quoted per-month below for your convenience. The
> maximum message size is 64k per message, which is roughly 64,000 text
> characters. The message size can be raised at an additional cost, request a quote
> if you need to allow larger messages
>
> Ed Sharpe archvist for SMECC _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
>
>
> In a message dated 12/6/2015 11:18:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> jphutch60bj at gmail.com writes:
>
> All -
> I am not advocating changing anything.
> Per the latest comments;
> Just curious what units are represented in the statement :500 - 999
> $35.00;
> Is that subscribers, or emails per hour : 500 - 999 ? Just curious.
> If the numeric range is subscribers that ~approx 36 cents per year or
> less, I don't know about anyone else, I could donate through paypal
> $1.00 a year, or 3 postage stamps what ever is greater ?-}
> Anyway Thanks -
> Hutch
>
> On 12/6/2015 11:44 AM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via Milsurplus wrote:
>> Bill, how many in CCA these days!?
>>
>> OK folks if you want to start something yourself there are many
> places
>> to do lists at including using the software your self as I remember
>> most of it is open source.
>>
>> Each listserv set up of company admin'ing the servers pretty much sets
>> the rules, then the listserv admin that purchases services can make
> a
>> selection of what to allow or not allow.. but if the server owner has
>> selected no photos you are pretty much out of luck. You can yack at
> your
>> club admin that is purchasing the space on listserv BUT NOT
> MUCH
>> WILL EVER CHANGE UNLESS listserc.com WANTS TO ALLOW IT. Of course if
> a
>> club or group does not like this there are other list homes that
> can be
>> employed that have features that a club desires to utilize.
>>
>> here is the skinny on Listserv.com
>> ListServe.com is not associated with L-Soft International, Inc.,
>> developers of LISTSERV� mailing list software.
>> ListSrerv is a company that has its business as running list
> serves
>> thus they have to charge to stay in biz.
>>
>>
>> OK for those that are curious
>> monthly fees for listserv.com are:
>>
>> 1 - 49
>> $15.00
>>
>> 50 - 99 $20.00
>>
>> 100 - 249 $22.00
>>
>> 250 - 499 $25.00
>>
>> 500 - 999 $35.00
>>
>> 1000+ _Request Quote_
> (mailto:sales at look.net?subject=ListServe%20Quote)
>>
>>
>> Pretty reasonable unless you like running your own servers or do
> the
>> admin work on someone else's platform. (valid point... when I was a
> kid
>> I liked working on cars but... the older I get the more I just was to
> "turn
>> the key and make it go!")
>>
>> and Ron: Yea I do like your Yahoo groups and the photos we all
> share
>> visuals are sometimes 90% of the message. ( a picture is worth a
>> thousand words!)
>>
>> We also use the Yahoo for the Tom-Swift book interest group ( for
> fans
>> and science minded folk) and we have the photos turned on also.
>>
>> There are people that do not like getting photos .. why? I am not
>> certain, but ourselves being both engineers and also media folk we
> like the
>> visual.
>>
>>
>> anyway more than 2 cents worth!
>>
>>
>> Have a great rest of weekend
>>
>> Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/6/2015 5:23:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, w
>> 4ron at carolina.rr.com writes:
>>
>> I use Yahoo Groups for all the lists I own, they have a setting
>> where you can allow attachments or not, and they are FREE.
>> They also have group web sites where any member can upload
>> photos or files to. I think individual photos or files can't
>> be bigger than 20MB.
>>
>> R-
>>
>> ---- Bill Carns <wcarns at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> We run the CCA list at LISTSERVE.com. Or, I should say, we use
>> Listserve.com to put our list on. THEY do not allow attachments. We
> pay for this
>> service to Listserve.com and we eat that cost as a service to our
> members and
>> others that share our interests that pay us nothing.
>>> Everyone should be aware that the answer is not just a simple turning
> on
>> and turning off of a switch and that the people who run the lists are
> not
>> being "arbitrary".
>>> Lists are provided free usually by some organization for your
>> convenience. But, that org pays money to have it supported somewhere,
> and as
>> important, they put time and effort into managing it.
>>> Lists take HUGE server capacity and usually involve archives for your
>> convenience. Passing photos adds another huge orders of magnitude of
> required
>> capacity (HUGE HUGE!) to the server support requirement and servers are
>> expensive and require support and maintenance and add eventually to the
>> costs. Those costs must be passed along to the organization (in our
> case the
>> Collins Collectors Association) and we then we need to absorb that cost
> unless
>> we start charging for use of the list. This is particularly true now
> that
>> cameras take such high resolution photos and generate megabyte files and
>> most users do not know how to decimate them to a lower file size
> effectively.
>>> It is very true that there are several free to everyone file passing
>> sites that you can upload files to and then just provide a link. The
> use of
>> these is not difficult to set up. This subject comes up often and
> everyone
>> should please understand the issues involved and just let it rest.
>>> And, Ralph, I do not know who supports your lists, but they must be
> very
>> generous, or your org must be ready to pay more ??
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Milsurplus [mailto:milsurplus-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
>> Of Ron Lawrence W4RON
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 9:45 PM
>>> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Milsurplus] photos
>>>
>>> I this day and time I don't know why attachments are allowed.
>>> Most people have good enough antivirus software that it's not really a
>> problem anymore.
>>> Just be careful what kind of attached files you click on.
>>> I manage several email lists, AWA, CC-AWA, TCA etc and I've taken the
> no
>> attachments rule off of all of them. I sure makes it a lot easier to do
>> things when you can easily share photos on the list.
>>>>
>>>> The list does not accept attachments. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>> Milsurplus Admin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>> of it all: the plain
>>>
>>> everythingness of everything, in cahoots with the everythingness of
>> everything else.
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>>>
>>> 73, Ron W4RON
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>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Knee-deep in the cosmic overwhelm, I’m stricken
>> by the ricochet wonder of it all: the plain
>>
>> everythingness of everything, in cahoots
>> with the everythingness of everything else.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> 73, Ron W4RON
>>
>> http://radioheaven.homestead.com/menu.html
>>
>> http://antiqueradiocharlotte.homestead.com/2016.html
>>
>>
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