[KL7AA] WOW --- Holy CoW, "apples and oranges"

Sun May 15 22:00:54 EDT 2005

Dan,
All I can say is I am not a religious zealot..and if you read my message 
real SLOW...you will see I was joking with you...ending with...
three dits, four dits, two dits, Dah... radio radio rah rah rah!
relax...and get a grip...nobody ever forced you to learn cw....
73

Frank KL7FH
432 EME
16X12 ele polarity rotation
FT-847 100 Watts
preamp K0RYT .18db NF

http://www.qsl.net/kl7fh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan O'Barr" <dan at obarr.net>
To: "AARC KL7AA" <kl7aa at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: [KL7AA] WOW --- Holy CoW, "apples and oranges"

> WOW --- Holy CoW, "apples and oranges"
>
> I forgot that a bunch of religious zealots couldn't take a joke about 
> their
> Holy CoW and that's all it was, nothing more and nothing less, "a joke." 
> I was
> only joking about the "apples and oranges".  Don't you believe that it was 
> "a
> joke" to even remotely compare two seasoned CW Ham contesters to a couple 
> of
> kids sending text messages between cell phones?   You have clearly made 
> two
> points I hadn't even thought about.
>
> ****#1****
> Most Morse code lovers are a form of religious zealots, and worship it as 
> a
> holy "Right of Passage".  Therefore, NO one dare question its worth or 
> joke
> about it, that's taboo!
>
> ****#2****
> Most old farts that were hazed, when they were younger, will insist on 
> hazing
> anyone else that dare want to participate in the activity that they had to
> endure hazing for.
>
> I guess you forgot that it was the NO CODE Tech Amateur Radio License that
> saved Amateur Radio from extinction.  All of you Morse code religious 
> zealots
> and hazing fanatics will NEVER be able to shove Morse code down MY throat,
> period.
>
> I probably would have learned Morse code years ago, if it would have been
> presented to me as an enjoyable hobby, say like horseback riding or 
> archery.
> But NO, you had to make it punitive, like forcing people to prove their
> proficiency in horsemanship to get a drivers license, or to prove their
> proficiency with a bow and arrow to get a hunting license to hunt with a 
> rifle.
> After all, your car or truck might die and your rifle might run out of
> ammunition, and---and if you can't ride a horse or shoot an arrow from a 
> bow,
> you might die.
>
> Lighten up a little folks, make it fun.  Heck, I might even get a QRP kit 
> and
> learn Morse code, if you quit acting like bullies and trying to shove 
> Morse
> code down our throats.
>
> 73 & Thanks for making my day,
> Dan O'Barr, KL7DR :)
>
> =========================================
>
>
> --- Frank Hurlbut KL7FH <kl7fh at gci.net> wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:56:07 -0800
>> From: Frank Hurlbut KL7FH <kl7fh at gci.net>
>> Subject: Fw: [KL7AA] Cell phone text msg vs Morse Code or is it
>> "apples and oranges"
>> To: kl7aa at mailman.qth.net
>>
>>
>> Frank KL7FH
>> 432 EME
>> 16X12 ele polarity rotation
>> FT-847 100 Watts
>> preamp K0RYT .18db NF
>
> =========================================
>
> --- Teresa Nunes <ptarmigan at iceworm.com> wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:40:36 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [gahleos] Cell phone text msg vs Morse Code, or is it 
>> "apples
>> and oranges"
>> From: Teresa Nunes <ptarmigan at iceworm.com>
>> To: "Dan O'Barr" <dan at obarr.net>
>>
>> Now that was just mean.  Why can't you just enjoy the good PR for the 
>> hobby
>> without being so nasty about anything that is related to CW?  This
>> green-eyed attitude doesn't suit you.
>>
>> ->T
>>
>
> ========================================
>
> --- Frank Hurlbut KL7FH <kl7fh at gci.net> wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:58:48 -0800
>> From: Frank Hurlbut KL7FH <kl7fh at gci.net>
>> Subject: Re: [KL7AA] Cell phone text msg vs Morse Code or is it
>>  "apples and oranges"
>> To: dan at obarr.net
>>
>> Dan!
>> I found myself in a very strange situation this morning while reading 
>> your
>> e-mail.
>> I am pretty darn sure you missed the point of the event on Leno's show.
>> Maybe
>> you should change your e-mail password. I think your grandkids are 
>> posting
>> for you and
>> they could be embarrasing.
>>     Also, $14 USD could buy a couple of CW op's a beer. I would think if 
>> it
>> was a distance
>> challenge, Jay could have spoken the message 20ft while drinking his 
>> beer.
>>     Finally, to put a LID on the subject..I know you must be in jest....
>> 73
>>
>>
>> Frank KL7FH
>> 432 EME
>> 16X12 ele polarity rotation
>> FT-847 100 Watts
>> preamp K0RYT .18db NF
>
> ============================================
>
>
> --- John Wolfe <aa0nn at arrl.net> wrote:
>> From: "John Wolfe" <aa0nn at arrl.net>
>> To: <kl7aa at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: RE: [KL7AA] Cell phone text msg vs Morse Code or is it "apples
>> andoranges"
>> Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 01:50:14 -0500
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Every time I see you pop up in my e-mail, it reminds me how much I miss
>> home...
>>
>> Your message smacks of false logic, my friend.  I'm no whiz-bang at CW 
>> even
>> though I passed the 20 WPM "back in the day", but every mode has its 
>> place.
>> Sure, 20 feet is great for FRS, but so is raising your voice.  Let's look 
>> at
>> a more realistic application...
>>
>> I vividly recall an SSB QSO on 20 meters (I was stationed in North 
>> Dakota,
>> and the distant end was in BC, Canada) when the conditions dropped out. 
>> On
>> my Heathkit HW-101, I had to repeat several times to "go to CW".  He 
>> barely
>> got the message, but we were able to continue on CW for another 20 
>> minutes.
>>
>> That said, I can barely copy it now, but CW definitely has its place. 
>> Good
>> on the folks that enjoy it and keep it going.  My take is that no mode is
>> better or worse than another...they're just different.  One may be more
>> appropriate, given specific conditions.
>>
>> 73,
>> John/AA0NN
>> Columbus Air Force Base...for now...
>>
>
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