[K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics

Alfred Bisasky [email protected]
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:54:38 -0400


Nitzberg then points at K3ZE and says "Don't do anything that he does and
you'll be fine."
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Nitzberg" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics


> Hi Keith;
>
> "Old Timer" - that's defined as anyone about 20 years
> older than me, so that target just keeps moving...
>
> Yes - we're supposed to set a good example for all
> Amateurs - and hopefully you can help me set that
> example on 20 meters in a couple of days!!!
>
> -Jim
>
> --- Keith Krichinsky <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Point well taken, but aren't you "old timers"
> > supposed to be setting a good
> > example for us "newbies"?  Granted, there aren't
> > many of us, but still.....
> >
> > BTW, the term "old timers" was meant to be
> > interpreted in the best possible
> > way.
> >
> > Keith KB3HHK
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: James Nitzberg <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics
> > Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Hi Phil & Company;
> >
> > I'll join the rag chew on this one.
> >
> > First - Phil is correct... - certainly with
> > emergency
> > and critical communication.  In fact, I generally
> > criticize operators at my station when they don't
> > use
> > proper phonetics - because those "cutsey" phonetics
> > can translate in busted (i.e. wrong) call signs in
> > the
> > other station's log.
> >
> > Next - there are exceptions - as follows:
> >
> > 1) When things get slow and you're trying to drum up
> > business (in a competition) CQing, and 2)
> > Occasionally, when you're trying, and having
> > difficulty breaking a pileup.
> >
> > Sometimes you will get through with one phonetic
> > where
> > a DX station is mis-interpreting another.
> >
> > For example, you are N3II (Dave, you coming to field
> > day?) trying to work an Italian station with your 5
> > watts and wet string on 10 meters.
> >
> > If you holler November 3 Italy Italy - you may have
> > a
> > better chance than using India India.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim  WX3B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Philip Karras <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  > I beg to differ, it has always been ARRL's
> > position
> >  > that one should NEVER use non-standard phonetics
> >  > because the person on the other end is listening
> > for
> >  > standard phonetics and throwing something else in
> >  > causes even more delays as s/he now has to
> > realize
> >  > that you've gone and changed the phonetics. This
> > is
> >  > especially important in those wee hours when
> >  > no-one's
> >  > brains are firing on all cylinders.
> >  >
> >  > imho
> >  > Phil K
> >  > ke3fl
> >  >
> >  > ============================
> >  >
> >  > Sometimes, when a station is really straining to
> >  > hear
> >  > you, you might
> >  > use
> >  > several different phonetics hoping that enough
> >  > syllables will be
> >  > recognised to allow them to get the call
> > correct..
> >  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
> >  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
> >  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
> >  >
> >  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
> >  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
> >  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
> >  >
> >  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
> >  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
> >  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
> >  >
> >  > During the wee hours of the morning, one's
> >  > creativity
> >  > may be a little
> >  > warped.....
> >  >
> >  > I prefer the standard phonetics repeated several
> >  > times, but one must
> >  > have
> >  > some fun, too
> >  > '73,
> >  > Bart
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
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