[K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics

Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:45:01 -0500

Keith;

The real "Old Timers" never had problems with phonetics -- they used CW!!
      N3SB

"Keith Krichinsky" <[email protected]> on 06/20/2002 02:00:35 PM

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Point well taken, but aren't you "old timers" supposed to be setting a good
example for us "newbies"?  Granted, there aren't many of us, but still.....

BTW, the term "old timers" was meant to be interpreted in the best possible
way.

Keith KB3HHK

----Original Message Follows----
From: James Nitzberg <[email protected]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Phil & Company;

I'll join the rag chew on this one.

First - Phil is correct... - certainly with emergency
and critical communication.  In fact, I generally
criticize operators at my station when they don't use
proper phonetics - because those "cutsey" phonetics
can translate in busted (i.e. wrong) call signs in the
other station's log.

Next - there are exceptions - as follows:

1) When things get slow and you're trying to drum up
business (in a competition) CQing, and 2)
Occasionally, when you're trying, and having
difficulty breaking a pileup.

Sometimes you will get through with one phonetic where
a DX station is mis-interpreting another.

For example, you are N3II (Dave, you coming to field
day?) trying to work an Italian station with your 5
watts and wet string on 10 meters.

If you holler November 3 Italy Italy - you may have a
better chance than using India India.

73,

Jim  WX3B

--- Philip Karras <[email protected]> wrote:
 > I beg to differ, it has always been ARRL's position
 > that one should NEVER use non-standard phonetics
 > because the person on the other end is listening for
 > standard phonetics and throwing something else in
 > causes even more delays as s/he now has to realize
 > that you've gone and changed the phonetics. This is
 > especially important in those wee hours when
 > no-one's
 > brains are firing on all cylinders.
 >
 > imho
 > Phil K
 > ke3fl
 >
 > ============================
 >
 > Sometimes, when a station is really straining to
 > hear
 > you, you might
 > use
 > several different phonetics hoping that enough
 > syllables will be
 > recognised to allow them to get the call correct..
 > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
 > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
 > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
 >
 > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
 > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
 > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
 >
 > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
 > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
 > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
 >
 > During the wee hours of the morning, one's
 > creativity
 > may be a little
 > warped.....
 >
 > I prefer the standard phonetics repeated several
 > times, but one must
 > have
 > some fun, too
 > '73,
 > Bart
 >
 >
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