[K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics

James Nitzberg [email protected]
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 11:29:50 -0700 (PDT)


Hi Keith;

"Old Timer" - that's defined as anyone about 20 years
older than me, so that target just keeps moving...

Yes - we're supposed to set a good example for all
Amateurs - and hopefully you can help me set that
example on 20 meters in a couple of days!!!

-Jim

--- Keith Krichinsky <[email protected]> wrote:
> Point well taken, but aren't you "old timers"
> supposed to be setting a good 
> example for us "newbies"?  Granted, there aren't
> many of us, but still.....
> 
> BTW, the term "old timers" was meant to be
> interpreted in the best possible 
> way.
> 
> Keith KB3HHK
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: James Nitzberg <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [K3PZN-List] non-standard phonetics
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Hi Phil & Company;
> 
> I'll join the rag chew on this one.
> 
> First - Phil is correct... - certainly with
> emergency
> and critical communication.  In fact, I generally
> criticize operators at my station when they don't
> use
> proper phonetics - because those "cutsey" phonetics
> can translate in busted (i.e. wrong) call signs in
> the
> other station's log.
> 
> Next - there are exceptions - as follows:
> 
> 1) When things get slow and you're trying to drum up
> business (in a competition) CQing, and 2)
> Occasionally, when you're trying, and having
> difficulty breaking a pileup.
> 
> Sometimes you will get through with one phonetic
> where
> a DX station is mis-interpreting another.
> 
> For example, you are N3II (Dave, you coming to field
> day?) trying to work an Italian station with your 5
> watts and wet string on 10 meters.
> 
> If you holler November 3 Italy Italy - you may have
> a
> better chance than using India India.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim  WX3B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Philip Karras <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > I beg to differ, it has always been ARRL's
> position
>  > that one should NEVER use non-standard phonetics
>  > because the person on the other end is listening
> for
>  > standard phonetics and throwing something else in
>  > causes even more delays as s/he now has to
> realize
>  > that you've gone and changed the phonetics. This
> is
>  > especially important in those wee hours when
>  > no-one's
>  > brains are firing on all cylinders.
>  >
>  > imho
>  > Phil K
>  > ke3fl
>  >
>  > ============================
>  >
>  > Sometimes, when a station is really straining to
>  > hear
>  > you, you might
>  > use
>  > several different phonetics hoping that enough
>  > syllables will be
>  > recognised to allow them to get the call
> correct..
>  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
>  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
>  > Kilo Three Papa Zulu November
>  >
>  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
>  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
>  > King Three Peter Zanzibar Nancy
>  >
>  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
>  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
>  > Koala Three Pouch Zipper Nation
>  >
>  > During the wee hours of the morning, one's
>  > creativity
>  > may be a little
>  > warped.....
>  >
>  > I prefer the standard phonetics repeated several
>  > times, but one must
>  > have
>  > some fun, too
>  > '73,
>  > Bart
>  >
>  >
>  >
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