[ILQSO] stuff

[Chuck]

Dave,

Speaking as a contester, I have seen FT8 pretty much ruin VHF contesting. Nobody hardly uses cw/ssb during those events. And, for myself and other contesters (guys who do more than the ILQP), the excitement of high rates and actually tuning the vfo and hunting stations is the whole draw to that part of the sport. In order for the guy who “doesn’t have access” to cw/ssb, there needs to be other stations on FT for him to work. When more stations go to FT instead of cw or ssb, the fewer there are for the serious guys to work at high rates (remember, this attracts us serious guys)…And that will turn to boredom and ultimately them (and me) not participating. 

Plus, FT doesn’t allow for the prescribed ILQP county abbreviations for county line stations. 

Lets be honest here…how many don’t have access to SSB? One? Two?  Most every rig comes with a mic.  

Just my 2 cents and explanation…

73 Chuck KI9A



  
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> On Sep 23, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Dave Belville <davebelville at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That is a mistake. Maybe FT4 or FT8 will not contribute a lot but by
> excluding those modes, you may exclude some operators that, for whatever
> reason, only have one of those modes available to them.
> I am a CW only operator and do not use the FT4 or FT8 modes but if the
> operators that do use it want to go to the trouble of exchanging real-time
> info that conforms to ILQP rules, you should allow it. It's part of the
> hobby and anyone that enjoys the hobby should be allowed to participate. I
> thought I saw an email that said something like, "even a small log is a
> log".
> 
> Just my opinion... for what it's worth.
> 
> Dave Belville, NI9M
> 
> “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those
> who speak it.”
> Author Unknown
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:43 AM <n9jfcountyhunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey troops,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> After some discussion with the steering committee, a rules note will be
>> added to state that "Due to the complexity of making a valid exchange,
>> contacts via FT4 and FT8 will not receive contest credit."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I know we can't make everyone happy with this.  Is it "possible" to
>> exchange
>> real-time info that conforms to ILQP rules on FT4 or FT8?  Probably yes.
>> Do
>> I find those modes fascinating?  Yes.  Are they going to contribute
>> anything
>> useful to the event?  I don't think so.  Spend your time on another digital
>> mode, CW or SSB.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Other suggestions as to entry categories are appreciated and considered.
>> At
>> some point, additional time in processing becomes a factor, and any new
>> plaque would require a sponsor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carry on.
>> 
>> 73, Jim N9JF
>> 
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