[ILQSO] County lines

[James Funk]

Yes or Street Atlas or Illinois Gazetteer. 

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> On Aug 15, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Eric Lorenz K9LGE <k9lge at emlorenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I would guess that USGS topo maps would be the most detailed...?
> 
> Eric Lorenz K9LGE
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:08 PM Chuck <chuckschneebeli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jim, where can we find detailed maps?
>> 
>> 73 Chuck KI9A
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:55 AM, n9jfcountyhunter at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ILQP committee will be meeting shortly.
>>> This question comes up almost perennially.
>>> Some considerations/alternatives:
>>> 1) Eliminate county lines altogether. Wisconsin QP does not allow county
>>> line operations.
>>> 2) Limit multiple counties to two.  This complies with MARAC/USACA rules.
>>> 3) Allow more than two counties simultaneously but strictly require that
>>> some portion of the "station" be in all counties claimed.
>>> 4) Same as (3) but allow some leeway for safety purposes. This is pretty
>>> much where we have come down in the past.  This has established more or
>> less
>>> a "200 foot gentleman's agreement" policy.
>>> 5) Open the doors to whatever looks good to the operator.
>>> 
>>> Note that "wet lines" are not permitted.  They never have been.  In
>> general,
>>> this conforms to MARAC/USACA rulings.  You can't claim CASS/MORG/PIKE for
>>> example just because you are on the SCOT/MORG line and within 200 feet of
>>> the middle of the Illinois River.
>>> 
>>> Some "four-county corners" are offset by several hundred feet.  My
>> personal
>>> opinion is that these are not legit. But that's only my personal opinion.
>>> Look at the detailed maps.
>>> 
>>> We are willing to listen to logical arguments for change.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim N9JF
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
>>> Behalf Of w9dp at w9dp.us
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:26 PM
>>> To: 'Illinois QSO Party' <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] County lines
>>> 
>>> The intent is to have some part of your station occupying each county you
>>> are claiming to operate in. In some cases that could be very hard to do
>> and
>>> possibly dangerous. In practice most take some liberty and set up at a
>> safe
>>> location as close as they can be to being in all 2, 3 or 4 counties. A
>> few
>>> have abused that and do what is easiest even though they may be able to
>> be
>>> closer. A set distance has never been agreed on and even if it was, it is
>>> still noy something that can easily be enforced, hence a "gentlemen's
>>> agreement".
>>> 
>>> It is something that has come up before,  I suspect sooner or later the
>> ILQP
>>> committee will have to address it.
>>> 
>>> I'll let N9JF chime in with his thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Danny W9DP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
>>> Behalf Of Carl Buehler
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:41 AM
>>> To: ilqso at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [ILQSO] County lines
>>> 
>>> Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" as to the flexibility in setting up
>>> portable stations?
>>> 
>>> For example, a portion of the antenna passes over the county lines,
>>> transmitter within a certain number of feet from the county line, etc?
>>> 
>>> Tnx and 73,
>>> Carl, k9za
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