[ILQSO] County lines

Eric Lorenz K9LGE k9lge at emlorenz.com
Mon Aug 15 16:04:55 EDT 2022


I would guess that USGS topo maps would be the most detailed...?

Eric Lorenz K9LGE

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:08 PM Chuck <chuckschneebeli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim, where can we find detailed maps?
>
> 73 Chuck KI9A
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:55 AM, n9jfcountyhunter at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > The ILQP committee will be meeting shortly.
> > This question comes up almost perennially.
> > Some considerations/alternatives:
> > 1) Eliminate county lines altogether. Wisconsin QP does not allow county
> > line operations.
> > 2) Limit multiple counties to two.  This complies with MARAC/USACA rules.
> > 3) Allow more than two counties simultaneously but strictly require that
> > some portion of the "station" be in all counties claimed.
> > 4) Same as (3) but allow some leeway for safety purposes. This is pretty
> > much where we have come down in the past.  This has established more or
> less
> > a "200 foot gentleman's agreement" policy.
> > 5) Open the doors to whatever looks good to the operator.
> >
> > Note that "wet lines" are not permitted.  They never have been.  In
> general,
> > this conforms to MARAC/USACA rulings.  You can't claim CASS/MORG/PIKE for
> > example just because you are on the SCOT/MORG line and within 200 feet of
> > the middle of the Illinois River.
> >
> > Some "four-county corners" are offset by several hundred feet.  My
> personal
> > opinion is that these are not legit. But that's only my personal opinion.
> > Look at the detailed maps.
> >
> > We are willing to listen to logical arguments for change.
> >
> > 73, Jim N9JF
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of w9dp at w9dp.us
> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:26 PM
> > To: 'Illinois QSO Party' <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [ILQSO] County lines
> >
> > The intent is to have some part of your station occupying each county you
> > are claiming to operate in. In some cases that could be very hard to do
> and
> > possibly dangerous. In practice most take some liberty and set up at a
> safe
> > location as close as they can be to being in all 2, 3 or 4 counties. A
> few
> > have abused that and do what is easiest even though they may be able to
> be
> > closer. A set distance has never been agreed on and even if it was, it is
> > still noy something that can easily be enforced, hence a "gentlemen's
> > agreement".
> >
> > It is something that has come up before,  I suspect sooner or later the
> ILQP
> > committee will have to address it.
> >
> > I'll let N9JF chime in with his thoughts.
> >
> > Danny W9DP
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of Carl Buehler
> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:41 AM
> > To: ilqso at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [ILQSO] County lines
> >
> > Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" as to the flexibility in setting up
> > portable stations?
> >
> > For example, a portion of the antenna passes over the county lines,
> > transmitter within a certain number of feet from the county line, etc?
> >
> > Tnx and 73,
> > Carl, k9za
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