[ILQSO] County lines

[Kevin Gray]

https://illinois.hometownlocator.com/maps/

https://illinois.hometownlocator.com/maps/statecountymap.cfm

Kevin
N9VPV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of James Funk
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 3:42 PM
> To: Illinois QSO Party <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] County lines
> 
> Yes or Street Atlas or Illinois Gazetteer.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -
> - Jim Elliot
> 
> > On Aug 15, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Eric Lorenz K9LGE <k9lge at emlorenz.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would guess that USGS topo maps would be the most detailed...?
> >
> > Eric Lorenz K9LGE
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:08 PM Chuck <chuckschneebeli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, where can we find detailed maps?
> >>
> >> 73 Chuck KI9A
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:55 AM, n9jfcountyhunter at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The ILQP committee will be meeting shortly.
> >>> This question comes up almost perennially.
> >>> Some considerations/alternatives:
> >>> 1) Eliminate county lines altogether. Wisconsin QP does not allow
> >>> county line operations.
> >>> 2) Limit multiple counties to two.  This complies with MARAC/USACA rules.
> >>> 3) Allow more than two counties simultaneously but strictly require
> >>> that some portion of the "station" be in all counties claimed.
> >>> 4) Same as (3) but allow some leeway for safety purposes. This is
> >>> pretty much where we have come down in the past.  This has
> >>> established more or
> >> less
> >>> a "200 foot gentleman's agreement" policy.
> >>> 5) Open the doors to whatever looks good to the operator.
> >>>
> >>> Note that "wet lines" are not permitted.  They never have been.  In
> >> general,
> >>> this conforms to MARAC/USACA rulings.  You can't claim
> >>> CASS/MORG/PIKE for example just because you are on the SCOT/MORG
> >>> line and within 200 feet of the middle of the Illinois River.
> >>>
> >>> Some "four-county corners" are offset by several hundred feet.  My
> >> personal
> >>> opinion is that these are not legit. But that's only my personal opinion.
> >>> Look at the detailed maps.
> >>>
> >>> We are willing to listen to logical arguments for change.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Jim N9JF
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> On Behalf Of w9dp at w9dp.us
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:26 PM
> >>> To: 'Illinois QSO Party' <ilqso at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [ILQSO] County lines
> >>>
> >>> The intent is to have some part of your station occupying each
> >>> county you are claiming to operate in. In some cases that could be
> >>> very hard to do
> >> and
> >>> possibly dangerous. In practice most take some liberty and set up at
> >>> a
> >> safe
> >>> location as close as they can be to being in all 2, 3 or 4 counties.
> >>> A
> >> few
> >>> have abused that and do what is easiest even though they may be able
> >>> to
> >> be
> >>> closer. A set distance has never been agreed on and even if it was,
> >>> it is still noy something that can easily be enforced, hence a
> >>> "gentlemen's agreement".
> >>>
> >>> It is something that has come up before,  I suspect sooner or later
> >>> the
> >> ILQP
> >>> committee will have to address it.
> >>>
> >>> I'll let N9JF chime in with his thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> Danny W9DP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net <ilqso-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> >>> On Behalf Of Carl Buehler
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:41 AM
> >>> To: ilqso at mailman.qth.net
> >>> Subject: [ILQSO] County lines
> >>>
> >>> Is there a "gentlemen's agreement" as to the flexibility in setting
> >>> up portable stations?
> >>>
> >>> For example, a portion of the antenna passes over the county lines,
> >>> transmitter within a certain number of feet from the county line, etc?
> >>>
> >>> Tnx and 73,
> >>> Carl, k9za
> >>>
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