[ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios

[David J. Ring, Jr.]

Sorry, Doug.  Good try, but the regulations are regulations!  If the station 
is licensed, it is subject to the very same regulations.

I've had people say that it doesn't qualify - because it is a pleasure 
craft!  Can you believe that?  Next we will be having separate categories 
for fishing boats, tankers, bulkers, container ships - when will the list 
end.  It doesn't:  stations on marine vessels - both voluntary equipped and 
those equipped by law - are subject to type approval of part 80.  Small 
vessels are exempt from licensing on vhf, but all hf equipped stations are 
subject to the FCC rules and regulations - and those of ITU - including 
requirement of a GROL or higher license for maintainance.

Of course the telling line is that the USCG has abandoned voluntary 
stations - those are the ones on pleasure craft and the FCC now longer 
(since it moved out of the ports) does radio inspections - except when it 
wants to.  The FCC has bowed out of the radio field - in marine - but 
retains the authority.  A bit strange - but this is Washington, DC.

73

David N1EA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" <faunt at panix.com>
To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios



I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
REQUIRED for SOLAS.  If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.

Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
sells radios set up for just this.  He's also a very active amateur.

I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.

73, doug

   From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
   Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:32 -0400

   Jerry,

   Your correct - except here's the bad news - FCC regulations require the
   "amateur radio" and the "marine radio" to be two separate installations -
   which can share the (1) power supply and (2) antenna.  No matter how you
   slice it, you can't make a dual radio except if it completely separate.
   Separate but occupying the same box would be an interesting argument 
though.
   However it would mean you had two independant transmitters and two
   independant receivers in one box.

   73

   David N1EA

   ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: "Jerry Flanders" <jeflanders at comcast.net>
   To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
   Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios


   To be "completely legal", as you intend, you probably need two separate
   radios (at least, in the USA). Modding the M710 as Dick suggests allows 
its
   legal use on the ham bands by hams, but it would no longer be legal for
   marine freqs (mods would kill the type acceptance approval). I think you
   can't do it with one radio unless some mfr actually markets a legal
   dual-purpose radio.

   Jerry W4UK




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