[ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios

Gary Fiber gfiber at comcast.net
Sat Jun 11 16:43:03 EDT 2005


David,

I know this is way off topic about Icom equipment. What rule for Pleasure 
vessels you could operate amateur using your Part 80 Type Accepted Marine 
SSB. It seems to me when you were for hire or over a certain length then 
two separate stations were required. I am hard pressed for the rule myself, 
am looking but not finding it either way actually but for years at Icom 
thats what we discussed at many tech support meetings since we did not want 
to give out incorrect advice. SOLAS was involved with the 2 separate 
station requirement and I suspect now GMDSS is also involves still would 
like to read the rune so I know too.
Last I knew the marine transceivers VHF< HF Radar all needed a GROL. Those 
with Telegraphy capabilities like the Icom M700TY had to be serviced by a 
holder of a Radiotelegraph license.

Thanks

Gary K8IZ

At 01:27 PM 6/11/2005, you wrote:
>Sorry, Doug.  Good try, but the regulations are regulations!  If the station
>is licensed, it is subject to the very same regulations.
>
>I've had people say that it doesn't qualify - because it is a pleasure
>craft!  Can you believe that?  Next we will be having separate categories
>for fishing boats, tankers, bulkers, container ships - when will the list
>end.  It doesn't:  stations on marine vessels - both voluntary equipped and
>those equipped by law - are subject to type approval of part 80.  Small
>vessels are exempt from licensing on vhf, but all hf equipped stations are
>subject to the FCC rules and regulations - and those of ITU - including
>requirement of a GROL or higher license for maintainance.
>
>Of course the telling line is that the USCG has abandoned voluntary
>stations - those are the ones on pleasure craft and the FCC now longer
>(since it moved out of the ports) does radio inspections - except when it
>wants to.  The FCC has bowed out of the radio field - in marine - but
>retains the authority.  A bit strange - but this is Washington, DC.
>
>73
>
>David N1EA
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" <faunt at panix.com>
>To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 3:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
>
>
>
>I could be wrong but, I believe this is true only if the marine HF is
>REQUIRED for SOLAS.  If the marine HF is not required, as is the case
>for most yachts, then a shared radio is acceptable, I've been told.
>
>Take a look at http://hfradio.com. and get in touch with Don, who
>sells radios set up for just this.  He's also a very active amateur.
>
>I'm not on the inside of this, but have looked at it a bit.
>
>73, doug
>
>    From: "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
>    Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:19:32 -0400
>
>    Jerry,
>
>    Your correct - except here's the bad news - FCC regulations require the
>    "amateur radio" and the "marine radio" to be two separate installations -
>    which can share the (1) power supply and (2) antenna.  No matter how you
>    slice it, you can't make a dual radio except if it completely separate.
>    Separate but occupying the same box would be an interesting argument
>though.
>    However it would mean you had two independant transmitters and two
>    independant receivers in one box.
>
>    73
>
>    David N1EA
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: "Jerry Flanders" <jeflanders at comcast.net>
>    To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:29 AM
>    Subject: Re: [ICOM] ICOM marine/ham radios
>
>
>    To be "completely legal", as you intend, you probably need two separate
>    radios (at least, in the USA). Modding the M710 as Dick suggests allows
>its
>    legal use on the ham bands by hams, but it would no longer be legal for
>    marine freqs (mods would kill the type acceptance approval). I think you
>    can't do it with one radio unless some mfr actually markets a legal
>    dual-purpose radio.
>
>    Jerry W4UK
>
>
>
>
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Gary Fiber K8IZ
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