[HSMM-COS] Fwd: Re: Add My Node(s) to the map!

[Bill Bishop]

Parts Dialogue from Jim:



Well as a preview, we go to L-com.com, fab-corp.com and Titan Wireless
(who has a store locally)

NEMA 4X Die Cast Aluminum Enclosure 10 x 8 x 3 inches :
http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?productid=16377&cat=278&page=1 $34.95

11196 N Female Chassis Mnt 4 Hole Chassis Mount
http://www.aaradio.com/belton/Catalog_Site/Connectors.html
<http://www.aaradio.com/belton/Catalog_Site/Connectors.html> $3.95 (2
per node, 4 if 2 boards in a box)


  *2.4 GHz 24 dBi Die Cast Mini-Reflector Grid Antenna - N-Male
  Connector 
  http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-24-dbi-die-cast-mini-reflector-grid-antenna-n-male-connector
  <http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-24-dbi-die-cast-mini-reflector-grid-antenna-n-male-connector%A0>
  $45*

5-pack of above
http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-24-dbi-die-cast-mini-reflector-grid-antenna-n-male-connector-5-pack
$200.00


CAT5 
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerrowire-1-000-ft-24-4-Gauge-Category-5e-Riser-Gray-Internet-Wire-2700-0104K5/202206479#.UbDuMFJcT-4
<http://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerrowire-1-000-ft-24-4-Gauge-Category-5e-Riser-Gray-Internet-Wire-2700-0104K5/202206479#.UbDuMFJcT-4%A0>
$75.00 / 1,000 feet

RJ45 crimps:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-RJ45-Module-Plugs-50-Pack-85-396/202276270#.UbDup1JcT-4
<http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-RJ45-Module-Plugs-50-Pack-85-396/202276270#.UbDup1JcT-4%A0>
$17.98 / 50


Notice... NO AMPS  :-)

Look around those sites for other gear, like verticals and other odds
and ends. Great resources.

KTF



At 08:38 PM 8/22/2013, you wrote:
> That's great Jim,
>
>  I look forward to seeing your gear recommendations.   I went the
> rootenna route for the directional, and a $25 vertical.
>
>  Thanks again!
>
> ->Bill
>
> On 08/22/2013 07:02 PM, Jim Kinter Jr. wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Im glad you understand why I try to downplay the amps.
> > If you cannot get a connection at all, and throw an amp in the mix,
> > your just upping the noise floor for nothing.
> >
> > We understand many new meshers come from HF VHF/UHF, where having an
> > amp is almost an automatic thing to make more contacts.
> > And it is definitely not so once you play up here. I came up those
> > ranks with those same thoughts as well, and until I actually made my
> > first "Mesh DX" contact (6.3 miles from the bed of my truck), I
> > thought the same.
> > Once I did that though, I changed my way of thinking and now promote
> > amp-less QSO's.
> > (My personal saying for HF is "QRP for me is anything under 100
> > watts!" :-) WAY different for Ghz)
> >
> > I can usually get 2 dishes at $50 each, an enclosure for $35ish, a
> > node for 0-30 dollars, CAT5 I have a 100' box out in the shop (about
> > $70), and then the lightning protection about $75-80. I can usually
> > keep it under $300 for a 1-node-2Dish setup.
> > We will be adding a section to the site of recommended sites and gear
> > to buy very shortly.
> >
> > 73 and happy meshing!
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > At 10:02 AM 8/22/2013, Bill Bishop wrote:
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >>    Since I do wish to abide by part 97 rules, I will try to connect
> >> without amps first; the nearest sites are currently over 10mi, but
> >> hopefully soon we'll have more that are closer.     The 2 watt amps
> were
> >> actually 2X less expensive than the 1 watt one (go figure).
> >>
> >>   I've been unable to connect with TC (KD0KWW), but the high-gain
> >> antenna will be here Friday, and I'll work with that first.   We just
> >> received "verbal" permission to install nodes on two of the local
> >> hospital rooftops.
> >>
> >>   I think you're right to encourage good antennas as the first line of
> >> connectedness, and appreciate the benefit of your experience.
> >>
> >>  BTW, I found that installing a "permanent" node (mast, antennas,
> >> lightning arrestors (coax & ethernet), weatherproof housings, router,
> >> cables & connectors, POE injector/splitter, ...)  is around $500 (not
> >> including amps).
> >>
> >>  Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> ->Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/22/2013 08:24 AM, Jim Kinter Jr. wrote:
> >> > Thanks Bill, your on the map!
> >> >
> >> > Im curious, is there a reason for throwing the amps on there?
> >> > Were you able to get connectivity with other sites first, and
> they are
> >> > weak?
> >> >
> >> > Usually we dont touch amps until we make connections (10 miles+) and
> >> > then need to stiffen a weak link up with 1/2W or 1W.
> >> > 95% of the time, we dont need them at all, if we have good antennas
> >> > and good aim.
> >> >
> >> > I have only ONE link where we found we need one, and Ill bet if we
> >> > were to reorient the dish at the one end, it would fix the problem.
> >> > I think the roof is cutting into the fresnel zone, and if I
> raised the
> >> > dish, I think it would fix it.
> >> >
> >> > (as you can tell, we try to discourage willy nilly amp usage :-)  )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 73!
> >> > Jim
> >> > K5KTF