[Heathkit] Heathkit Digest, Vol 136, Issue 3

Sat May 9 21:04:33 EDT 2015

PCB were really bad. Before it was know just HOW bad they were, used transformer oil and Dioxin was poured on dirt roads to keep the dust down.
Hooker Chemical also dumped a LOT of it in the ground. Remember Love Canal?
When I worked for IBM, we we instructed to remove and return those PCB filled caps from equipment. Fortunately, there were none in my territory!!!

ron
N4UE

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FS:  Heath  Cantenna
(manualman at juno.com)
   2. Re: FS:  Heath  Cantenna (Walt - WB2VSJ)
   3. Re:
FS:  Heath  Cantenna - Caution About The Oil (RAY FRIESS)
   4. Re: FS:  Heath 
Cantenna - Caution About The Oil (Chuck Penson)
   5. Re: FS:  Heath  Cantenna
- Caution About The Oil (RAY
FRIESS)

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Message:
1
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 16:58:50 -0400
From: <manualman at juno.com>
To:
heathkit at mailman.qth.net
Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re:
[Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna
Message-ID:
<AABLW67KLALEMXPJ at smtpout03.vgs.untd.com>
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I wouldn't ship this Cantenna with oil inside the container no
matter how
many trash bags you use. You're asking for a disaster.

Pete,
wa2cwa

On Sat, 9 May 2015 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Walter Treftz via
Heathkit
<heathkit at mailman.qth.net> writes:
> Got a Heath "Cantenna" dummy
load out of an estate. Price: $25 
> pluspostage, with or without oil. Located
in Hernando 
> (Ocala/Inverness area) and if bought, can deliver free to a 
>
mutually-attended hamfest.(if using shipping, can wrap it inside 
> several
trash bags so the oil cango with it). Pix avail if I can get 
> my kid (the
family photo-bug) to take them.73 Walt (N4GL)(352) 
>
637-1755

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 9 May
2015 17:06:51 -0400
From: "Walt - WB2VSJ" <wb2vsj at earthlink.net>
To:
<manualman at juno.com>,	<heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Cc:
boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] FS:  Heath 
Cantenna
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type:
text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Pete is right.  That thing  will leak if
tipped.   Unless you pop the lid,
get a new paint can lid from  Lowes/HD  to
replace it with.  Still, that's
risky.

Walt - WB2VSJ 

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Message-----
From: Heathkit [mailto:heathkit-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of
manualman at juno.com
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 16:59
To:
heathkit at mailman.qth.net
Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re:
[Heathkit] FS: Heath Cantenna

I wouldn't ship this Cantenna with oil inside
the container no matter how
many trash bags you use. You're asking for a
disaster.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sat, 9 May 2015 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Walter
Treftz via Heathkit
<heathkit at mailman.qth.net> writes:
> Got a Heath
"Cantenna" dummy load out of an estate. Price: $25 
> pluspostage, with or
without oil. Located in Hernando (Ocala/Inverness 
> area) and if bought, can
deliver free to a mutually-attended 
> hamfest.(if using shipping, can wrap it
inside several trash bags so 
> the oil cango with it). Pix avail if I can get
my kid (the family 
> photo-bug) to take them.73 Walt (N4GL)(352)
>
637-1755

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Message:
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Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 15:53:39 -0600
From: RAY FRIESS
<rayfrijr at msn.com>
To: WD8ARZ <wd8arz at comcast.net>,
"heathkit at mailman.qth.net"
	<heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Heathkit]
FS:  Heath  Cantenna - Caution About The Oil
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<SNT148-W1080CF10A9A60606A0A67BCADD0 at phx.gbl>
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charset="iso-8859-1"

Best thing to use in them is mineral oil.   Go to your
nearest farm supply store, like IFA, and get a gallon.

> Date: Sat, 9 May
2015 16:59:08 -0400
> From: wd8arz at comcast.net
> To:
heathkit at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna -
Caution About The Oil
> 
> =========
> Just an FYI
> =========
> 
>
Original Heath Kit Cantenna's were built by the purchaser from Heath, 
> with
instructions on filling it with Transformer Oil from your local 
> power
utility if possible ...... and most were, as I did with mine.
> 
> Over the
years we learned that the transformer oil was a toxic agent, 
> and was not to
be handled, and it was recommended to remove it from the 
> dummy load. Removal
of that oil and proper disposal was required, and I 
> did so with mine.
> 
>
Replacement oil was normal over the counter mineral oil. It would derate 
> the
power / time handling spec for the cantenna, but for those of us 
> running
barefoot, that was a none issue.
> 
> =========
> Just an FYI
> =========
>
http://www.epa.gov/region9/pcbs/faq.html
> ***
> What are Polychlorinated
Biphenyls?
> 
> The manufacture of PCBs was stopped in the U.S. in 1977
because of 
> evidence they build up in the environment and can cause harmful
health 
> effects.
> 
> Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) are synthetic
chemicals which are no 
> longer produced in the United States, but are still
found in the 
> environment. PCBs have been used as coolants and lubricants in

> transformers, capacitors, and other electrical equipment because they 
>
don't burn easily and are good insulators. The manufacture of PCBs was 
>
stopped in the U.S. in 1977 because of evidence they build up in the 
>
environment and can cause harmful health effects. Products made before 
> 1977
that may contain PCBs include old fluorescent lighting fixtures and 
>
electrical devices containing PCB capacitors and hydraulic oils.
> ***
> 
>
73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> 
> On 5/9/2015 3:37 PM, Walter Treftz via Heathkit
wrote:
> > Got a Heath "Cantenna" dummy load out of an estate. Price: $25
pluspostage, with or without oil. Located in Hernando (Ocala/Inverness area) and
if bought, can deliver free to a mutually-attended hamfest.(if using shipping,
can wrap it inside several trash bags so the oil cango with it). Pix avail if I
can get my kid (the family photo-bug) to take them.73 Walt (N4GL)(352)
637-1755
> 
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 17:34:57
-0700
From: Chuck Penson <wa7zze at gmail.com>
To: RAY FRIESS
<rayfrijr at msn.com>
Cc: "heathkit at mailman.qth.net"
<heathkit at mailman.qth.net>,	WD8ARZ
	<wd8arz at comcast.net>
Subject: Re:
[Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna - Caution About The Oil
Message-ID:
<74BEECA0-114F-4C01-A2AE-1BD075BCD2DE at gmail.com>
Content-Type:
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With transformer oil the Cantenna will handle
1000 watts for 10 minutes. With mineral oil the 1KW rating drops to less than a
minute. 

Chuck / WA7ZZE 

"Remain open to the possibility of the
fantastic." -- Terry Hansen

> On May 9, 2015, at 2:53 PM, RAY FRIESS
<rayfrijr at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Best thing to use in them is mineral oil.   Go
to your nearest farm supply store, like IFA, and get a gallon.
> 
> 
>> Date:
Sat, 9 May 2015 16:59:08 -0400
>> From: wd8arz at comcast.net
>> To:
heathkit at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna -
Caution About The Oil
>> 
>> =========
>> Just an FYI
>> =========
>> 
>>
Original Heath Kit Cantenna's were built by the purchaser from Heath, 
>> with
instructions on filling it with Transformer Oil from your local 
>> power
utility if possible ...... and most were, as I did with mine.
>> 
>> Over the
years we learned that the transformer oil was a toxic agent, 
>> and was not to
be handled, and it was recommended to remove it from the 
>> dummy load.
Removal of that oil and proper disposal was required, and I 
>> did so with
mine.
>> 
>> Replacement oil was normal over the counter mineral oil. It would
derate 
>> the power / time handling spec for the cantenna, but for those of us

>> running barefoot, that was a none issue.
>> 
>> =========
>> Just an
FYI
>> =========
>> http://www.epa.gov/region9/pcbs/faq.html
>> ***
>> What
are Polychlorinated Biphenyls?
>> 
>> The manufacture of PCBs was stopped in
the U.S. in 1977 because of 
>> evidence they build up in the environment and
can cause harmful health 
>> effects.
>> 
>> Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs)
are synthetic chemicals which are no 
>> longer produced in the United States,
but are still found in the 
>> environment. PCBs have been used as coolants and
lubricants in 
>> transformers, capacitors, and other electrical equipment
because they 
>> don't burn easily and are good insulators. The manufacture of
PCBs was 
>> stopped in the U.S. in 1977 because of evidence they build up in
the 
>> environment and can cause harmful health effects. Products made before

>> 1977 that may contain PCBs include old fluorescent lighting fixtures and

>> electrical devices containing PCB capacitors and hydraulic oils.
>>
***
>> 
>> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
>> 
>>> On 5/9/2015 3:37 PM, Walter Treftz
via Heathkit wrote:
>>> Got a Heath "Cantenna" dummy load out of an estate.
Price: $25 pluspostage, with or without oil. Located in Hernando
(Ocala/Inverness area) and if bought, can deliver free to a mutually-attended
hamfest.(if using shipping, can wrap it inside several trash bags so the oil
cango with it). Pix avail if I can get my kid (the family photo-bug) to take
them.73 Walt (N4GL)(352) 637-1755
>> 
>>
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Message:
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Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 18:47:39 -0600
From: RAY FRIESS
<rayfrijr at msn.com>
To: Chuck Penson <wa7zze at gmail.com>
Cc:
"heathkit at mailman.qth.net"
<heathkit at mailman.qth.net>,	WD8ARZ
	<wd8arz at comcast.net>
Subject: Re:
[Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna - Caution About The Oil
Message-ID:
<SNT148-W269F28E33FB591D2FB0BCECADC0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"

If you need more than a minute to tune up into a dummy
load, then you need to make a chart of settings so
you can quickly go to them
and tuneup.

> CC: wd8arz at comcast.net; heathkit at mailman.qth.net
> From:
wa7zze at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna - Caution About
The Oil
> Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 17:34:57 -0700
> To: rayfrijr at msn.com
> 
>
With transformer oil the Cantenna will handle 1000 watts for 10 minutes. With
mineral oil the 1KW rating drops to less than a minute. 
> 
> Chuck / WA7ZZE

> 
> 
> 
> "Remain open to the possibility of the fantastic." -- Terry
Hansen
> 
> > On May 9, 2015, at 2:53 PM, RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr at msn.com>
wrote:
> > 
> > Best thing to use in them is mineral oil.   Go to your nearest
farm supply store, like IFA, and get a gallon.
> > 
> > 
> >> Date: Sat, 9
May 2015 16:59:08 -0400
> >> From: wd8arz at comcast.net
> >> To:
heathkit at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] FS:  Heath  Cantenna -
Caution About The Oil
> >> 
> >> =========
> >> Just an FYI
> >>
=========
> >> 
> >> Original Heath Kit Cantenna's were built by the purchaser
from Heath, 
> >> with instructions on filling it with Transformer Oil from
your local 
> >> power utility if possible ...... and most were, as I did with
mine.
> >> 
> >> Over the years we learned that the transformer oil was a
toxic agent, 
> >> and was not to be handled, and it was recommended to remove
it from the 
> >> dummy load. Removal of that oil and proper disposal was
required, and I 
> >> did so with mine.
> >> 
> >> Replacement oil was normal
over the counter mineral oil. It would derate 
> >> the power / time handling
spec for the cantenna, but for those of us 
> >> running barefoot, that was a
none issue.
> >> 
> >> =========
> >> Just an FYI
> >> =========
> >>
http://www.epa.gov/region9/pcbs/faq.html
> >> ***
> >> What are
Polychlorinated Biphenyls?
> >> 
> >> The manufacture of PCBs was stopped in
the U.S. in 1977 because of 
> >> evidence they build up in the environment and
can cause harmful health 
> >> effects.
> >> 
> >> Polychlorinated biphenyls
(PCBs) are synthetic chemicals which are no 
> >> longer produced in the United
States, but are still found in the 
> >> environment. PCBs have been used as
coolants and lubricants in 
> >> transformers, capacitors, and other electrical
equipment because they 
> >> don't burn easily and are good insulators. The
manufacture of PCBs was 
> >> stopped in the U.S. in 1977 because of evidence
they build up in the 
> >> environment and can cause harmful health effects.
Products made before 
> >> 1977 that may contain PCBs include old fluorescent
lighting fixtures and 
> >> electrical devices containing PCB capacitors and
hydraulic oils.
> >> ***
> >> 
> >> 73 from Bill - WD8ARZ
> >> 
> >>> On
5/9/2015 3:37 PM, Walter Treftz via Heathkit wrote:
> >>> Got a Heath
"Cantenna" dummy load out of an estate. Price: $25 pluspostage, with or without
oil. Located in Hernando (Ocala/Inverness area) and if bought, can deliver free
to a mutually-attended hamfest.(if using shipping, can wrap it inside several
trash bags so the oil cango with it). Pix avail if I can get my kid (the family
photo-bug) to take them.73 Walt (N4GL)(352) 637-1755
> >> 
> >>
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