[Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???

Jim Brannigan jbrannig at optonline.net
Thu Jan 15 14:30:14 EST 2009


Nicely said Duane.
Most people don't realize that intellectual property is an asset, like any 
other.
If someone were to take your car and drive it (even to a foreign country) it 
is theft and all the bad mouthing and vitriol does not change it.

Jim


> Easy there Larry, don't meltdown a 'final'! When an Author, or a company, 
> has his/her written material stolen, said Author loses their rightfully 
> entitled income.
>
> As a published author for Ziff-Davis Inc., and others, the theft of my 
> article, or verse, or prose or song lyrics or musical score all cheat me 
> out of income I earned. Hence, those who plagerize or outright steal my 
> work get no sympathy from me when their stylus of life skips a groove or 
> three on a brand new still sealed in the no longer air tight plastic 
> wrapping for the new 33 1/3 rpm vinyl platter!
>
> Just bite a half watt resistor Larry, preferably the red or blue color 
> bands, but do not grind it in half! I do not want to get in the middle of 
> a flame throwing free for none, but I do agree with you about theft.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>
> To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; 
> "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>
>
>> So Carl your telling me just because someone exercised his right to 
>> purchase the rights to a companies intellectual property you are going to 
>> be an asshole and send this persons property that he has legally paid for 
>> to someone in another country so you can screw the guy out of his legal 
>> property...
>>
>> Your one hell of a great example of an Amatuer Radio Operator....
>>
>> Did you buy your license or did you get it FREE???
>>
>> I provided Ken with a number of Heathkit manuals to BAMA.  I was pleased 
>> when I saw he had removed them and for the reason why.
>>
>> I admidt I was surprised at the news that someone purchased the rights to 
>> the Heathkit manuals. I can't imagine how he is going to break even no 
>> matter what he paid for those rights. However that is his choice. I hope 
>> he does well as this probably means that the Heathkit manuals will be 
>> around for a long time.
>>
>> 73 Larry WA9VRH
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> To: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" 
>> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>
>>
>>> Below is the party line as posted by Ken to some reflectors.
>>>
>>> Ive been advised that there are some that have copied the complete file 
>>> to CD.
>>>
>>> I am looking for a copy of that CD and will arrange to have it hosted 
>>> offshore where the silliness factor is ignored.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> There has been a lot of discussion about the disappearance of the
>>> Heathkit manuals from BAMA.
>>> It has always been my policy to immediately remove material from BAMA
>>> any time a copyright was exercised.  The current owner of the Heathkit
>>> copyright bought and paid for it and has a right to receive a return on
>>> his investment.  When he contacted me to exercise the copyright, I
>>> immediately agreed to remove the Heathkit manuals.
>>>
>>> Copyright is as American as apple pie and is protected by the
>>> Constitution and the laws made under it by the Congress.  While I may be
>>> best known for making manuals and schematics available for free
>>> downloading on BAMA, I'm here to tell you that I believe in the
>>> principle of copyright and have absolutely no trouble with the exercise
>>> of that right by an owner....nor should you.
>>>
>>> There seems to be some uncertainty about the length that a copyright is
>>> valid.  Some seem to think that copyrighted material enters the public
>>> domain after 20 years.  That is simply not true.  The Heathkit material
>>> copyright extends for 95 years from the copyright date.  So, that manual
>>> for the SB-10 Sideband Adapter copyrighted in 1960 is protected until
>>> 2055 when it will become a part of the public domain.  I seriously doubt
>>> that I will be around to add it back to the BAMA collection at that 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> For a succinct presentation of the length of time for a work to become
>>> part of the public domain, see http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ken K4XL
>>> k4xl at arrl.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>
>>> To: "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:41 PM
>>> Subject: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>>
>>>
>>>> Did I get this right?
>>>> Because some company bought the educational material, that was once 
>>>> sold by a company that used to sell radio equipment but has been out of 
>>>> that business for over 30 years, we can no longer download Heathkit 
>>>> manuals from BAMA.
>>>> If this is so we need to start our own files.
>>>> What is it with BAMA?
>>>> The copyrights on those manuals must be expired by now.
>>>> Does the company that bought the rights to the material plan on selling 
>>>> the manuals or just keep them out of the hand of HAMS?
>>>> Does anyone have more information on this?
>>>> Dan/N4VET
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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