[Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???

Duane Fischer, W8DBF dfischer at usol.com
Thu Jan 15 12:47:10 EST 2009


Easy there Larry, don't meltdown a 'final'! When an Author, or a company, 
has his/her written material stolen, said Author loses their rightfully 
entitled income.

As a published author for Ziff-Davis Inc., and others, the theft of my 
article, or verse, or prose or song lyrics or musical score all cheat me out 
of income I earned. Hence, those who plagerize or outright steal my work get 
no sympathy from me when their stylus of life skips a groove or three on a 
brand new still sealed in the no longer air tight plastic wrapping for the 
new 33 1/3 rpm vinyl platter!

Just bite a half watt resistor Larry, preferably the red or blue color 
bands, but do not grind it in half! I do not want to get in the middle of a 
flame throwing free for none, but I do agree with you about theft.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>
To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; 
"heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???


> So Carl your telling me just because someone exercised his right to 
> purchase the rights to a companies intellectual property you are going to 
> be an asshole and send this persons property that he has legally paid for 
> to someone in another country so you can screw the guy out of his legal 
> property...
>
> Your one hell of a great example of an Amatuer Radio Operator....
>
> Did you buy your license or did you get it FREE???
>
> I provided Ken with a number of Heathkit manuals to BAMA.  I was pleased 
> when I saw he had removed them and for the reason why.
>
> I admidt I was surprised at the news that someone purchased the rights to 
> the Heathkit manuals. I can't imagine how he is going to break even no 
> matter what he paid for those rights. However that is his choice. I hope 
> he does well as this probably means that the Heathkit manuals will be 
> around for a long time.
>
> 73 Larry WA9VRH
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" 
> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>
>
>> Below is the party line as posted by Ken to some reflectors.
>>
>> Ive been advised that there are some that have copied the complete file 
>> to CD.
>>
>> I am looking for a copy of that CD and will arrange to have it hosted 
>> offshore where the silliness factor is ignored.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> There has been a lot of discussion about the disappearance of the
>> Heathkit manuals from BAMA.
>> It has always been my policy to immediately remove material from BAMA
>> any time a copyright was exercised.  The current owner of the Heathkit
>> copyright bought and paid for it and has a right to receive a return on
>> his investment.  When he contacted me to exercise the copyright, I
>> immediately agreed to remove the Heathkit manuals.
>>
>> Copyright is as American as apple pie and is protected by the
>> Constitution and the laws made under it by the Congress.  While I may be
>> best known for making manuals and schematics available for free
>> downloading on BAMA, I'm here to tell you that I believe in the
>> principle of copyright and have absolutely no trouble with the exercise
>> of that right by an owner....nor should you.
>>
>> There seems to be some uncertainty about the length that a copyright is
>> valid.  Some seem to think that copyrighted material enters the public
>> domain after 20 years.  That is simply not true.  The Heathkit material
>> copyright extends for 95 years from the copyright date.  So, that manual
>> for the SB-10 Sideband Adapter copyrighted in 1960 is protected until
>> 2055 when it will become a part of the public domain.  I seriously doubt
>> that I will be around to add it back to the BAMA collection at that time!
>>
>> For a succinct presentation of the length of time for a work to become
>> part of the public domain, see http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> -- 
>> Ken K4XL
>> k4xl at arrl.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Pividal" <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>
>>
>>> Did I get this right?
>>> Because some company bought the educational material, that was once sold 
>>> by a company that used to sell radio equipment but has been out of that 
>>> business for over 30 years, we can no longer download Heathkit manuals 
>>> from BAMA.
>>> If this is so we need to start our own files.
>>> What is it with BAMA?
>>> The copyrights on those manuals must be expired by now.
>>> Does the company that bought the rights to the material plan on selling 
>>> the manuals or just keep them out of the hand of HAMS?
>>> Does anyone have more information on this?
>>> Dan/N4VET
>>>
>>
>
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