[Heathkit] Re: [Hammarlund] Duanes-w8dbf double standard

[Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX]

Publish them now.  Sue me later.

73
Bob, K4TAX


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
To: <kgordon2006 at verizononline.net>; "Ray" <w2ec at bmjsports.com>
Cc: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>; <Heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Re: [Hammarlund] Duanes-w8dbf double standard


>I hold copies of a lot of articles that would be VERY interesting to the
> boat-anchor crowd of whatever persuasion, but have not been able to
> publish them to our website because I have not been able to even FIND
> the original copyright holder, let alone obtain written permission from
> them for it.
>
>
>
> In that case you might consider just publishing them with that caveat and 
> see what happens. Worse case, since it would appear that no money is 
> involved, is that you are asked to remove it by someone who has the legal 
> right to do so. It certainly is one way to find if the copyright is still 
> valid.
>
> I do it regularly with interesting internal documents from National Radio, 
> havent heard a thing in over 20 years.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at verizon.net>
> To: "Ray" <w2ec at bmjsports.com>
> Cc: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>; <Heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:14 PM
> Subject: [Heathkit] Re: [Hammarlund] Duanes-w8dbf double standard
>
>
>> On 6 Jul 2006 at 15:55, Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Dave Brubeck's "Two Generations
>>> Of Brubeck" an album still under copywrite itself?
>>
>> Yes. Most definitely. See below. BTW, the word is "copyright" not
>> "copywrite".
>>
>>>  It's been
>>> re-released just three months ago by Atlantic as a CD. Atlantic
>>> wouldn't bother releasing it if they had no control over its
>>> distibution, would they?
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>> Is copywrite duration on music different than
>>> copywrite on other material?
>>
>> No. 97 years, AFAIK.
>>
>>> Possibly Duane has received written
>>> permission from Atlantic to re-master one of their albums and
>>> distribute it on his own, since he asks the same of us (to get written
>>> permission) before using any HCI material.
>>
>> If that is the case, then he is REQUIRED to so state.
>>
>>> If this Brubeck album is still under copywrite and Duane has not
>>> received any written permission from Atlantic, then Duanes double
>>> standard is that it is not permitted for anybody to use Duane's
>>> property, but it is perfectly all right for Duane to copy other
>>> peoples material (like Dave Brubeck's "Two Generations Of Brubeck")
>>> and offer it to others.
>>>
>>> Am I wrong here?
>>>
>>> Ray W2EC
>>
>> IMHO, no.  Duane is being very inconsistent.
>>
>> Furthermore, the copyright periods for all but a very minute number of
>> bits of "intellectual property" have been extended to 97 years from date
>> of first copyright.
>>
>> The Brubeck album most definitely falls in this category.
>>
>> Although it is all right to copy a certain (small) amount of copyrighted
>> material for "educational purposes", it is most definitely NOT all right 
>> to
>> take the entire work and copy it, even if it is given away free, for
>> someone else.
>>
>> Permission must be asked for and obtained FIRST, from the present
>> copyright holder.
>>
>> As an example, we had to obtain written permission from the ARRL in
>> order to publish any articles from ARRL-owned material on the
>> Glowbugs website. We have copies of that in our possession, and are
>> required to state that it was copied with their permission.
>>
>> I hold copies of a lot of articles that would be VERY interesting to the
>> boat-anchor crowd of whatever persuasion, but have not been able to
>> publish them to our website because I have not been able to even FIND
>> the original copyright holder, let alone obtain written permission from
>> them for it.
>>
>> Ken Gordon W7EKB
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