[Heathkit] Re: [Hammarlund] Duanes-w8dbf double standard

[jeremy-ca]

I hold copies of a lot of articles that would be VERY interesting to the
boat-anchor crowd of whatever persuasion, but have not been able to
publish them to our website because I have not been able to even FIND
the original copyright holder, let alone obtain written permission from
them for it.



In that case you might consider just publishing them with that caveat and 
see what happens. Worse case, since it would appear that no money is 
involved, is that you are asked to remove it by someone who has the legal 
right to do so. It certainly is one way to find if the copyright is still 
valid.

I do it regularly with interesting internal documents from National Radio, 
havent heard a thing in over 20 years.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at verizon.net>
To: "Ray" <w2ec at bmjsports.com>
Cc: <Hammarlund at mailman.qth.net>; <Heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: [Heathkit] Re: [Hammarlund] Duanes-w8dbf double standard


> On 6 Jul 2006 at 15:55, Ray wrote:
>
>> Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Dave Brubeck's "Two Generations
>> Of Brubeck" an album still under copywrite itself?
>
> Yes. Most definitely. See below. BTW, the word is "copyright" not
> "copywrite".
>
>>  It's been
>> re-released just three months ago by Atlantic as a CD. Atlantic
>> wouldn't bother releasing it if they had no control over its
>> distibution, would they?
>
> Correct.
>
>> Is copywrite duration on music different than
>> copywrite on other material?
>
> No. 97 years, AFAIK.
>
>> Possibly Duane has received written
>> permission from Atlantic to re-master one of their albums and
>> distribute it on his own, since he asks the same of us (to get written
>> permission) before using any HCI material.
>
> If that is the case, then he is REQUIRED to so state.
>
>> If this Brubeck album is still under copywrite and Duane has not
>> received any written permission from Atlantic, then Duanes double
>> standard is that it is not permitted for anybody to use Duane's
>> property, but it is perfectly all right for Duane to copy other
>> peoples material (like Dave Brubeck's "Two Generations Of Brubeck")
>> and offer it to others.
>>
>> Am I wrong here?
>>
>> Ray W2EC
>
> IMHO, no.  Duane is being very inconsistent.
>
> Furthermore, the copyright periods for all but a very minute number of
> bits of "intellectual property" have been extended to 97 years from date
> of first copyright.
>
> The Brubeck album most definitely falls in this category.
>
> Although it is all right to copy a certain (small) amount of copyrighted
> material for "educational purposes", it is most definitely NOT all right 
> to
> take the entire work and copy it, even if it is given away free, for
> someone else.
>
> Permission must be asked for and obtained FIRST, from the present
> copyright holder.
>
> As an example, we had to obtain written permission from the ARRL in
> order to publish any articles from ARRL-owned material on the
> Glowbugs website. We have copies of that in our possession, and are
> required to state that it was copied with their permission.
>
> I hold copies of a lot of articles that would be VERY interesting to the
> boat-anchor crowd of whatever persuasion, but have not been able to
> publish them to our website because I have not been able to even FIND
> the original copyright holder, let alone obtain written permission from
> them for it.
>
> Ken Gordon W7EKB
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