[Ham-Computers] Netscape

Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:41:39 -0500

Mike -
That's extremly well stated.  Thanks.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Cobb E-mail" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Netscape


> Folks,
>
> First off, most of the services like MSN and AOL use proprietary
> interfaces to access the servers. This is the typical "fat client"
> approach whereby a Win32/MacOS binary runs on the desktop that provides
> the necessary access to services such as e-mail etc. Both AOL and MSN
> provide access to there services WITHOUT having to use the fat client
> approach. Generally, access to these services such as e-mail is web based.
> MSN provides access to your MSN account via the internet much like you
> do when you visit yahoo. I believe this is a cheaper option that using
> their dial-ip infrastructure however you must have your own access to the
> internet. Now on to the issue of Internet Expolder vis a vis Netscape.
> Given that MSN customizes the "experience" as they call it of MSN to IE
> I doubt you will have all the features on Netscape. Remember, Microsoft
> has trashed every standard they have gotten their fingers on to FORCE
> you to stay on their technology. The "web" was designed to provide open
> access to data from ANY desktop to ANY server and Uncle Willie and his
> team has tried to make it very difficult for those (like your self) who
> want choice.
>
> Look at the following statement straight off the MSN home page:
>
>  Details of Two Month Free MSN 8 Internet Software plan:
>  Internet access service is not provided; you must have existing Internet
> Access service. MSN 8 Internet Software is for users of the Windows 98 or
> later operating systems only. You must additionally subscribe to MSN 8
> Internet Software in accordance with its Subscription Agreement to access
> the software. MSN 8 Internet Software is only available to residents of
the
> 50 United States, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. A major credit
> card is required. Following your trial period, the then-current price for
> the standard monthly MSN 8 Internet Software plan will be automatically
> charged to your credit card until you cancel your subscription or select
an
> alternative plan. MSN is available only for personal non-commercial use.
May
> not be combined with any other Microsoft offers or rebates. Prices subject
> to change. Promotion expires January 31, 2003.
>
> If I wanted to run a Linux desktop and use mozilla I, according to the
above
> agreement, would not be allowed to access MSN.
>
> They short answer is get another ISP and change your e-mail account.
> Shoot I have 11 servers running in the shack. I'll alias you e-mail
> account for you from MSN to an OPEN IMAP/POP server so you can run
> Netscape or whatever you like for free.
>
> Mike (KF6MPI)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of w8krr
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>
>
> I've tried that one, and that's not it.  No, you can't see the address -
> microsft won't reveal what they have fiddled it to!
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Boyle KB5RVV" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>
>
> > I think I see what you're trying for. You want to access your msn mail
> with
> > netscape instead. If it is a pop-3 account, try mail.msn.com - if not,
can
> > you see what address it's going to when you use msn (explorer, I
assume?)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of w8krr
> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:38 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
> >
> >
> > Let me try to explain myself.  I am an msn subscriber, but
> > I prefer Netscape.  In order to preserve my address, I
> > want to stay on msn, but I need to know the address to
> > plug into Netscape for msn.  It's not msn.com.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Mike
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