[Ham-Computers] Netscape

Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:19:34 -0800

Thank you sir, I wish I could have helped you solve the problem.

Regards
Mike

w8krr wrote:

>Mike -
>That's extremly well stated.  Thanks.
>Mike
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Cobb E-mail" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:39 PM
>Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>
>
>>Folks,
>>
>>First off, most of the services like MSN and AOL use proprietary
>>interfaces to access the servers. This is the typical "fat client"
>>approach whereby a Win32/MacOS binary runs on the desktop that provides
>>the necessary access to services such as e-mail etc. Both AOL and MSN
>>provide access to there services WITHOUT having to use the fat client
>>approach. Generally, access to these services such as e-mail is web based.
>>MSN provides access to your MSN account via the internet much like you
>>do when you visit yahoo. I believe this is a cheaper option that using
>>their dial-ip infrastructure however you must have your own access to the
>>internet. Now on to the issue of Internet Expolder vis a vis Netscape.
>>Given that MSN customizes the "experience" as they call it of MSN to IE
>>I doubt you will have all the features on Netscape. Remember, Microsoft
>>has trashed every standard they have gotten their fingers on to FORCE
>>you to stay on their technology. The "web" was designed to provide open
>>access to data from ANY desktop to ANY server and Uncle Willie and his
>>team has tried to make it very difficult for those (like your self) who
>>want choice.
>>
>>Look at the following statement straight off the MSN home page:
>>
>> Details of Two Month Free MSN 8 Internet Software plan:
>> Internet access service is not provided; you must have existing Internet
>>Access service. MSN 8 Internet Software is for users of the Windows 98 or
>>later operating systems only. You must additionally subscribe to MSN 8
>>Internet Software in accordance with its Subscription Agreement to access
>>the software. MSN 8 Internet Software is only available to residents of
>>
>the
>
>>50 United States, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. A major credit
>>card is required. Following your trial period, the then-current price for
>>the standard monthly MSN 8 Internet Software plan will be automatically
>>charged to your credit card until you cancel your subscription or select
>>
>an
>
>>alternative plan. MSN is available only for personal non-commercial use.
>>
>May
>
>>not be combined with any other Microsoft offers or rebates. Prices subject
>>to change. Promotion expires January 31, 2003.
>>
>>If I wanted to run a Linux desktop and use mozilla I, according to the
>>
>above
>
>>agreement, would not be allowed to access MSN.
>>
>>They short answer is get another ISP and change your e-mail account.
>>Shoot I have 11 servers running in the shack. I'll alias you e-mail
>>account for you from MSN to an OPEN IMAP/POP server so you can run
>>Netscape or whatever you like for free.
>>
>>Mike (KF6MPI)
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of w8krr
>>Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 11:30 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>>
>>
>>I've tried that one, and that's not it.  No, you can't see the address -
>>microsft won't reveal what they have fiddled it to!
>>Mike
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chuck Boyle KB5RVV" <[email protected]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:54 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>>
>>
>>>I think I see what you're trying for. You want to access your msn mail
>>>
>>with
>>
>>>netscape instead. If it is a pop-3 account, try mail.msn.com - if not,
>>>
>can
>
>>>you see what address it's going to when you use msn (explorer, I
>>>
>assume?)
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of w8krr
>>>Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 10:38 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: [Ham-Computers] Netscape
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me try to explain myself.  I am an msn subscriber, but
>>>I prefer Netscape.  In order to preserve my address, I
>>>want to stay on msn, but I need to know the address to
>>>plug into Netscape for msn.  It's not msn.com.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Mike
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