[Hallicrafters] Powder coating experiences
Ken Ketner
ketner at arisbeassociates.com
Fri Jul 27 13:44:56 EDT 2007
I recorded my powder coating experiences at
http://www.w9wze.org/Restorations/PowderCoating/Powder_Coating_KA5ELD.htm
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> 1. Re: Fw: S-20R Speaker (Glen Zook)
> 2. Powder Coating (David C. Hallam)
> 3. Re: Powder Coating (Jim Wilhite)
> 4. POWDER COAT (W4AWM at aol.com)
> 5. Re: POWDER COAT (Dan Arney)
> 6. Re: POWDER COAT (Roger (K8RI))
> 7. Re: Powder Coating (WA1KBQ at aol.com)
> 8. Hallicrafters SX-71 guu? (Ken Ketner)
> 9. Re: Powder Coating (rrkrr)
> 10. RE: Hallicrafters SX-71 guu? (Ian)
> 11. Re: Hallicrafters SX-71 guu? (n4tua at aol.com)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Glen Zook <gzook at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Fw: S-20R Speaker
>To: jsloss <k7mks at comcast.net>,
>hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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>Try spraying the cone with WD-40. I have done this
>on
>speakers made during the 1920s and that has worked
>to
>"soften" the cone and make it sound much better.
>
>It does not work in every case, but if you are
>going
>to have to replace the speaker it is definitely
>worth
>trying.
>
>Glen, K9STH
>
>
>--- jsloss <k7mks at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>The speaker in this restoration project sounds
>"tinny"
>and I suspect the cone has had it. I'd prefer to
>recone but it may be a bit costly. I'm wondering
>if
>anyone has substituted a PM speaker and either
>replaced the field coil (ie filter choke) or eli
>minated the choke completely as in the S-40/40A/40B
>
>series which is basically a S-20R in a new cabinet.
>
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>Glen, K9STH
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:49:54 -0400
>From: "David C. Hallam" <dhallam at rapidsys.com>
>Subject: [Hallicrafters] Powder Coating
>To: "Hallicrafters Reflector"
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>Has anyone had experience with powder coating of
>cabinets? There is a local
>firm who claim they can match any color or type of
>finish, wrinkle, crackle,
>hammertone, vein, etc.
>
>We haven't gotten to discussing price yet.
>
>David
>KC2JD/4
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:47:41 -0500
>From: "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Powder Coating
>To: "Hallicrafters Reflector"
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>There is a place near me that does powder coating
>and I
>stopped in to ask about the service. Turns out
>they stock
>certain colors and the price if very reasonable if
>you use
>the stock colors.
>
>However, if you choose something they do not stock,
>you pay
>for what is ordered, no matter how little of it
>they use.
>The place in next door to a powder coat manufactuer
>and they
>just have to walk in to get the new stuff. Prices
>varied a
>bit depending on the color, but as I recall, it was
>
>expensive. Say for an HT 44 the amount they had to
>buy
>would have been about 600 dollars.
>
>The one near you may stock a color that is a match
>for what
>you need, but I would ask what the charge is should
>they
>order the tint you need.
>
>Jim/W5JO
>
>> Has anyone had experience with powder coating of
>cabinets?
>> There is a local
>> firm who claim they can match any color or type
>of finish,
>> wrinkle, crackle,
>> hammertone, vein, etc.
>>
>> We haven't gotten to discussing price yet.
>>
>> David
>> KC2JD/4
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:09:27 EDT
>From: W4AWM at aol.com
>Subject: [Hallicrafters] POWDER COAT
>To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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>I Recently ordered custom paint for my SR series
>cabinets. It cost $177.00 a
>gallon. One reason for the high price is that it
>must be packed and shipped
>as HazMat.
>
>I figure that paint session cost me $100.00 a
>cabinet, but they did a perfect
>job of color matching and duplicated the "splotchy
>finish" on the original
>cabinets.
>
>I managed to drop one cabinet on the basement floor
>when I was getting to
>reinstall the chassis on one of the rigs and it
>didn't even ding the paint job.
>
>73,
>
>John, W4AWM
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:14:26 -0500
>From: Dan Arney <hankarn at pacbell.net>
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] POWDER COAT
>To: W4AWM at aol.com
>Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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>John, all of the powder coat I have seen is Dry
>powder which is sprayed
>on a super clean item with an electric charged
>surface hanging by wire
>hangers and on cart/dollies/racks and rolled into
>an oven at 435 degrees
>and baked IIRC for 30 or 35 minutes and allowed to
>cool. It is dry and
>sold by the pound. I am not even sure if it even
>has a URM number for
>HAZ MAT .
>The price is in the ballpark for about 10 pounds of
>custom color powder
>Hank
>KN6DI
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:46:54 -0400
>From: "Roger (K8RI)"
><Hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] POWDER COAT
>To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
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>>I Recently ordered custom paint for my SR series
>cabinets. It cost $177.00
>>a
>> gallon. One reason for the high price is that it
>must be packed and
>> shipped
>> as HazMat.
>
>It depens on the paint. Good quality paint for
>cars and airplanes may run
>upwards of $300 a gallon.
>
>>
>> I figure that paint session cost me $100.00 a
>cabinet, but they did a
>> perfect
>> job of color matching and duplicated the
>"splotchy finish" on the original
>> cabinets.
>>
>> I managed to drop one cabinet on the basement
>floor when I was getting to
>> reinstall the chassis on one of the rigs and it
>didn't even ding the paint
>> job.
>>
>Powder coat is tough stuff. <:-)) it's also used on
>tubular aircraft frames.
>
>73
>
>Roger (K8RI)
>
>
>> 73,
>>
>> John, W4AWM
>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:03:05 EDT
>From: WA1KBQ at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Powder Coating
>To: dhallam at rapidsys.com,
>hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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>It's the way to go because it is cured with heat
>which results in a finish
>that is tough and scratch resistant like the
>original. In calling the original
>scratch resistant I mean compared to a typical
>spray can repaint job.
>Anyway, painter skill and experience will make a
>big difference in finished quality
>as there is often a tendency to apply the paint
>too thick and the paint has
>an additional tendency to orange peel. If you
>discuss these issues ahead of
>time with your painter they can be avoided
>provided he knows what he is doing.
>Also, most powder paint is too glossy and your
>freshly painted cabinet will
>look like a repaint. Try to pick some flat or semi
>gloss shades and you will
>be much happier with the results. I have a local
>powder painter I have worked
>with on some SX-88 cabinets with regard to degree
>of gloss and the results
>have been fabulous and practically undetectable
>from the original. I have also
>had one done before that was so bad I had to get
>someone else to do it over.
>
>Regards, Greg
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:49:41 -0500
>From: "Ken Ketner" <ketner at arisbeassociates.com>
>Subject: [Hallicrafters] Hallicrafters SX-71 guu?
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>Greetings Halli-crafty people:
>
>I just shuffled home to Lubbock Texas from the
>Oklahoma City ham fest. I was able to execute an
>inventory shrink by swapping a big National HRO and
>a big Heath Mohawk for quite a lesser volumetric of
>goodies of possibly equal value. One medium biggie
>that latched on to me was a Halli SX-71 which I
>will try to get pumping real good.
>
>I seem to recall some time ago there was a good
>discussion on the list from a gent who was
>obviously the SX-71 guru. Could some kind soul
>identify same so that maybe I could contact him and
>so that maybe he might give me some advice before I
>get started?
>
>73.3
>
>Ken Ketner
>ARS KA5ELD (Extra Class) ARRL, RSGB, GQRP #809
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>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:11:15 -0400
>From: rrkrr <rrkrr at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Powder Coating
>To: dhallam at rapidsys.com
>Cc: Hallicrafters Reflector
><hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <46A5A613.2060302 at comcast.net>
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>David,
>I got six HT-32B size Hallicrafter's cabinets done
>all at the same time
>by a commercial powder coating firm near me for
>less than $200 for the
>lot, including a preliminary hot sand strip of the
>original finish.
>This was because they happened to be spraying black
>and silver paints
>that were close enough to the original for my
>taste. The job was
>excellent and I'm quite happy. While there are
>those that are willing
>to try and do this at home, curing the sprayed
>powder in their kitchen
>oven, I'd rather spend my time on the electronics
>portion of boatanchor
>restoration.
>
>Price and quality can vary all over the place.
>It's best to go out a
>look at some of the work that an operator has done
>prior to selecting
>one. In general, powder coated finish is more
>uniform and more durable
>than conventional spray paint IMHO. I've seen the
>advertisements for
>textures as well - haven't tried them yet.
>
>One caution: The commercial operator I used was
>used to high volume work
>for local manufacturers of heavy steel structures.
>When I went to pick
>up my radio cabinets, they had been carefully
>stacked on a wooden
>freight pallet with layers of foam in between and
>around the outside,
>and then wrapped to the pallet with clear
>industrial shrink wrap. The
>tension in the shrink wrap warped the cabinets
>slightly, but I was able
>to straighten them without marring the finish.
>
>Bob K4ERR
>
>
>David C. Hallam wrote:
>> Has anyone had experience with powder coating of
>cabinets? There is a local
>> firm who claim they can match any color or type
>of finish, wrinkle, crackle,
>> hammertone, vein, etc.
>>
>> We haven't gotten to discussing price yet.
>>
>> David
>> KC2JD/4
>>
>>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:49:17 -0700
>From: "Ian" <ianwebb5 at comcast.net>
>Subject: RE: [Hallicrafters] Hallicrafters SX-71
>guu?
>To: "'Ken Ketner'" <ketner at arisbeassociates.com>,
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
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>Keep the discussion public and/or include me in the
>discussion if you would.
>
>I'm hoping to pick up an SX-71 tomorrow and from
>the pictures it looks all
>there and cosmetically pretty good...
>
>Ian, K6SDE
>
>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: hallicrafters-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>[mailto:hallicrafters-
>> >>bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken
>Ketner
>> >>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:50 PM
>> >>To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
>> >>Subject: [Hallicrafters] Hallicrafters SX-71
>guu?
>> >>
>> >>Greetings Halli-crafty people:
>> >>
>> >>I just shuffled home to Lubbock Texas from the
>Oklahoma City ham fest. I
>was able to
>> >>execute an inventory shrink by swapping a big
>National HRO and a big
>Heath Mohawk
>> >>for quite a lesser volumetric of goodies of
>possibly equal value. One
>medium biggie that
>> >>latched on to me was a Halli SX-71 which I will
>try to get pumping real
>good.
>> >>
>> >>I seem to recall some time ago there was a good
>discussion on the list
>from a gent who
>> >>was obviously the SX-71 guru. Could some kind
>soul identify same so that
>maybe I could
>> >>contact him and so that maybe he might give me
>some advice before I get
>started?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>73.3
>> >>
>> >>Ken Ketner
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:08:52 -0400
>From: n4tua at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Hallicrafters SX-71
>guu?
>To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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>I too have an SX-71 waiting to be restored and will
>gladly copy all
>coments.
>Thanks, Collin
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Ken Ketner
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