[GreenKeys] Avarda ITTY Feed / StayShift-On-Space

Sat Oct 14 10:19:18 EDT 2017

GM OMs;

*The 28-RO is set for stay-shift because of some of the stuff I print.)

o When I got started on RTTY, I didn't know what "that" was all about.
   After a QSO I got on the land-line and spoke to one of the guys
   about it. When he explained it, and how to send so that both types
   of machines would be OK, I started following the procedure.

   When GLASS came out, and I tried to explain that - AND - the concept
   of setting up a CR/LF for heavy metal, "they couldn't be bothered"
   to open their owner's manual and find out how to set things up. And
   the "you're the only one who every complained about it" kinda put the
   icing on the cake.

   After a few QSOs with glass machines, I gave up. Yes, - I know that
   there are glass-ops here, but they've set up their computers so that
   they can handle the different types of set up.

UE,
K2EAA - TONY
NNNN
ZCZC

On 10/14/2017 07:07 AM, Ralph Irish wrote:
> *Paul, Tony, et al*
> *
> *It seems to me that the "Unshift on Space" thing is easily programmable
> in the Model 28 family.*
> *Not certain of the procedure.  It might be 'parts juggling' or parts
> added in certain places.*
> *
> *
> *However, the down side of Unshift on Space is the situation where the
> sender is sending groups*
> *of things in UC and dutifully puts spaces between groups but  NOT  a
>   FIGS  character to assure*
> *that UC things arrive on paper in UC.*
> *
> *
> *I'll never forget my first encounter with someone who had Unshift on
> Space on his Model 15 and*
> *didn't know any different.  I kept getting things in UC since my Model
> 19 didn't have USOS*
> *set up.  After about six exchanges, I got tired of mentally
> 'translating' things and signed with'*
> *him.  Not his fault, initially, since he didn't know the difference,
> but was not willing to do*
> *his sending to accommodate others.*
> *
> *
> *I discovered that a firm 'rap' downward on the paper crank would put
> the machine back into LC,*
> *but that, too, got tiresome.  (And probably not good for the machinery
> on a continuing basis.)*
> *
> *
> *73,*
> *
> *
> *Ralph*
> *
> *
> *- - - - - - - -*
> *
> *
> *On Oct 14, 2017, at 9:42 AM, tony.podrasky wrote:*
> *
> *
>> *GM OMs;
>>
>> OK - I was printing yesterday, and still have the printout.
>> I'll try to get on here later and tell you what articles and
>> where-at the problem appeared.
>>
>> 73,
>> tony
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2017 10:38 PM, Paul Heller wrote:
>> *
>>> *OK, let’s see if we can figure out some kind of pattern. Could any of
>>> *
>>> *you tell me the name of an article or two where this happens, and the
>>> *
>>> *offending line of text? If it is truly random it could be hard to find
>>> *
>>> *but I want to try!
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Paul
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, Nick <creativegardening at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:creativegardening at hotmail.com>
>>> *
>>> *<mailto:creativegardening at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>>> *Bill, I experience the same phenomenon - but it happens only once in a
>>>> *
>>>> *while. If the situation is not getting worse, I think I can live with
>>>> *
>>>> *that. I know, I know,  what about perfection, right ?
>>>> *
>>>> *A big THANK YOU to all of you guys to make ITTY happen - to put so
>>>> *
>>>> *much time, love, knowledge and enthusiasm into this cool hobby.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Nick  -  N0NCQ
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *-------- Original message --------
>>>> *
>>>> *From: William Wuttke <wcwuttke at att.net <mailto:wcwuttke at att.net>
>>>> <mailto:wcwuttke at att.net>>
>>>> *
>>>> *Date: 10/13/17 8:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>>> *
>>>> *To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> *
>>>> *Subject: [GreenKeys] Avarda ITTY Feed / StayShift-On-Space
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Paul, Tony,
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *I’ve done some testing and found that sometimes, after a comma
>>>> *
>>>> *followed by a space, LETTERS is not received. All the following
>>>> *
>>>> *charcters will be FIGURES until the next LETTERS is received, usually
>>>> *
>>>> *at the start of the next line or after a period at the start of the
>>>> *
>>>> *next sentence. I’ve done testing with both MMTTY and my homebrew RTTY
>>>> *
>>>> *demodulator - same results.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *I’ve also seen instances of skipped apostrophes. With some debug
>>>> *
>>>> *software I notice that when an apostrophe is supposed to be printed, I
>>>> *
>>>> *see only a LETTERS being received. It looks like the FIGURES and the
>>>> *
>>>> *apostrophe are just dropped somewhere along the way.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Bill
>>>> *
>>>> *KE3BK
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