[GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines - print news ...

COURYHOUSE at aol.com COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Wed Sep 14 15:17:06 EDT 2016


OK  Gil!  you solved the problem  with a workaround!
In a  controlled environment as the Bat  Cave they are set  for  life.
It  may well turn out once I exhume the carriage basket
it may  well have  the dreaded fractions  or weather set on it 
and was  swapped out  to help a Deaf tty user   eons   ago.
 
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/14/2016 11:45:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
gil at baudot.net writes:

Thanks for the basket offer Ed, but the batcave unit is working well and  I 
don't want to change anything.


When I set up the test files for printing, I just avoided the  fractions.  
I found a batman head in rtty art and I think I just had to  substitute a 
few chars in that one.


Now I need to find a CR strap for my M15 -- was broken when it came back  
from the NYC tv shoot.  Anyone have one to sell?



thx, gil




gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re:  [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines
- print news  ...
From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Date: Wed,  September 14, 2016 1:32 am
To: gil at baudot.net, nagle at animats.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net

Gil - wondering if the batcave needed    basket   with all text?   you 
would get to swap it  grease it   etc.  but as  mentioned there is a  chance we  
might  have xtra one.
 Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 9/14/2016 1:08:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
gil at baudot.net writes:

Hey Ed:


Cost TBD.  Not sure yet.  I won't be making money on it --  just a labor of 
love that I started about 20 years ago with my early tty  pcb designs.


If you have a machine with a fractions or WX type basket, you can  
certainly swap a standard ustty (or pretty close) basket in there.   The keycaps 
should be changed as well (unless you have an RO).  


USTTY is already limited in the symbol set, and when you have a  FRACTIONS 
or WX machine, you just have less usable figs chars with which  to work.  It 
is really too bad that they did not jump to 6- or 7-bit  char sets earlier, 
but I suppose that is part of the charm of  baudot.



gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Re: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for Windows machines
-  print news ...
From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Date: Wed, September 14, 2016  12:06 am
To: gil at baudot.net, nagle at animats.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net

Thanks  for the update Gil!!  This is amazing  Gil!  This  will have a  
great  feature  set.  Any WAG as to  cost assembled? (ballpark?)

The addition  of   John's  feed  would  be indeed  neat.

There is  a lot  of talent here in this   group!
 
OK> On the  15 basket with fractions  Gil, it is   hard to swap out the 
basket  if  you had the regular  basket?  Or  maybe  properly used the  
fractions  and   the etc  could   be  cool in  the  cave.... or in a way  the 
bizarre   weather   char. set  might be  interesting  depending.  Back in the 
bowls  of  warehouse  we  have  spare  basket that  has  no place to   hand 
it's hat on a machine  but...  it  may   be  a loose one as it is not the 
standard  text set. With the  temperature  starting to go  down  I will be in  
that  area  in October.
 
I  want  to  experiment  with  John's   new release of "baudotrss" too. It  
sounds   lie the new installation method will make things easier.   I  
started to use  the set up the older  version a  year ago  but  got  lost along 
the  way. (probably lack of   focus  issue on my  behalf)   The other night 
I  tried the new version but  tired to run it as a windows  file  rather 
than command  line   start so that is way i had  the previous mentioned error I 
think.
 
Getting old is great!  you get wiser... but...  soldering  skills go to 
heck... setting up software  goes  to heck...  teeth break... you get 
cataracts... and I hate to admit it, I find  myself with far less patience with just 
about  everything than when  I was  young!

The other day I had  11 teeth  yanked - OUCH!  that  was not the  worst 
though... on the second day after the great  extraction I got one of the worse 
migraines I have ever had on tops  of  things. Not a good  combo.
 
Doing better now  but still feel like a horse kicked me in the  mouth... 
and putting off  software stuff, using tools,  driving   for a week I think 
<grin!>
 
The  high point of  my  day today was a gift of a  tuning fork for 60 words 
per minute!
 
Have a great night and keep up the  great   work   on this stuff folks.
 
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) 
 
 
In a message dated 9/13/2016 11:36:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
gil at baudot.net  writes:

First board going to batcave for update this Thursday.   General 
availability after I finish some more firmware tweaks, and  maybe talk Mr. Nagle into 
an ascii feed of his cool rss stuff :)


So far I have implemented two loops at different speeds, baudot  
60/66/75/100 or ascii 110 on either loop, connection/conversion  to/from ascii rs232 
port to either loop (with xon/xoff software  handshaking allowing computer to 
provide immense print buffer), and SD  card file printing to either loop 
(with conversion), using a single  pushbutton and simple lcd or vfd display 
(press/release to cycle to  and see next filename, and press/hold to print it 
to currently-defined  loop).


I have always wanted to remove the baudot code from the PC, as it  has 
always been an immense pain in the ass to find usable usb-232  hardware.  
Putting a micro in the loop driver is the way to  go.  I plan to make this an 
open-source project (though it needs  to be ported to a free C compiler).



Files on SD card should be formatted so they print as expected  (especially 
rtty-art files), which means keeping the character set  reasonable.  I do 
as much conversion as I can: lowercase will be  converted to uppercase and so 
on, and many ascii chars will get a  "best-available" translation (eg: [] 
or {} to ()...), but it is best  to compose the file in the restricted 
character set of the expected  machine.  As an example, the batcave M15 is not 
only a baudot  M15, but it has the really-awful FRACTIONS type basket (almost 
as bad  as a WX basket), so the figs are even further restricted than plain  
old ustty.


I'll keep you all posted, but it is progressing.



gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
gil at baudot.net




-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for  Windows machines
- print news ...
From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Date: Tue, September 13,  2016 2:45 am
To: gil at baudot.net, nagle at animats.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net

this sounds neat...
 
John>>   had  tried to email you off list but  think went  into mbad 
message folder... please add  me  to your  contact list... have  some  questions 
on your program and  windows 10...
 
Gil>  how   soon   boards will be avail?
 
 
thanks  ed#
 
 
In a message dated 9/12/2016 6:54:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
gil at baudot.net writes:

That sounds cool John!  Can you set it to simply output  ascii?  Something 
I always wished heavymetal would do.   


I do baudot conversions in the loop driver, and there is no  need to be 
restricted by a computer having an old-fashioned serial  port, or to find a 
specific usb converter off a short list of ones  that can do baudot.


I would love to run your feed into my first BTTY board, which  is an 
upgrade to the Batcave Teletype I put in service three years  ago.  The upgrade is 
going in this week!  The batcave  season opens for a new family this 
Sunday. 


They are mostly happy pressing the pushbutton to cycle  through available 
files on the SD card (displayed on a VFD  display), and then a press-and-hold 
to print it.  Pretty  simple, but sending a news feed from a computer would 
be nice as  well.


I just need the feed in ascii at 19200 (can easily change the  rate), and 
set the computer port to enable xon/xoff to throttle  the data (there is a 
btty buffer of 1000 bytes, but beyond that  xon/xoff lets the computer buffer 
anything bigger with just a  click or two).


thx, gil




gil smith, AF7EZ
greenkeys moderator
gil at baudot.net




-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: [GreenKeys] New release of "baudotrss" for  Windows machines -
print news RSS feeds on your  Teletype
From: John Nagle <nagle at animats.com>
Date: Mon, September  12, 2016 4:01 pm
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net

Here's a new  release of "baudotrss", my program for printing
RSS feeds,  including news, on Baudot Teletype machines.

This version  is much easier to run on Windows than the
old version. It's  one EXE file, with no need to install
Python first. (It's  really the same program, just packaged
up as one file.) This  is the program we use at  steampunk
conventions.

Program:

https://github.com/John-Nagle/baudotrss/releases/download/3.1.1/baudotrss.ex
e

This  is normally run from a command line, and you have to give
it  a config file to tell it about the serial port and speed.
See  the instructions.

Instructions:

https://github.com/John-Nagle/baudotrss/blob/master/README.md

It  should work on Windows 7 and later. It may work on Windows  XP,
but it hasn't been tested there.

The default  configuration prints news from the Reuters RSS  feed.

Pre-release version. Please test and report bugs.  Thanks.

John  Nagle
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