[FreeBay] The Freebay Concept

Mon Apr 21 14:29:41 EDT 2008

for what its worth, i totally agree with Norm, W3DYA.

there will always be someone looking for an unfair advantage, always someone
looking to cheat, but i would like to think that for the most part most
people - especially hams - would be honorable to each other.

bob, ka2fxr

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Regarding remarks by Carl and Time, giving something away shouldn't require
two trips to the post office, which I have to do if I want the shipping
costs in advance.  I don't do any business to justify calculating shipping
costs in advance with a good scale.

I always ship first and email the cost - and have never been cheated. 
Since it's never much money, it's just the principle.

When shopping online, feedback is available to check on buyers.  Freebay is
free and doesn't provide this feature, and shouldn't.  However, I think if
anyone doesn't pay for shipping after the fact, he ID should be posted on
Freebay in case anyone is interested.

I'll continue to ship in advance of payment to save the inconvenience of two
trips to the post office.  And if I get cheated out of a couple of dollars,
I'll put a message here to let others know.  I appreciate someone having a
use for what I give away, but packing and the trip to the post office
shouldn't go unrewarded by not paying the shipping cost.  Unlike others,
packing material is free, just the postage is all I ask - unlike some who
seem to have very high postage rates in advance - even higher than Amazon
and Ebay for example.

I like this thing and don't object to people asking for something or
offering a swap.  I'm fast on the delete option....

73, Norm, W3DYA

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From: Carl Morgan <k8cm at arrl.net>
To: "Tony Martin W4FOA" <w4foa at comcast.net>
Cc: freebay at mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:50:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [FreeBay] The Freebay Concept
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Clearly, Tony, you were ripped and shouldn't have been.  My experiences,
though, with FreeBay participants has been good.  In fact, recipients of my
"free" stuff have either provided prepaid mailing labels or remitted the
requested shipping expenses in advance.

Hope you next experience is considerably better.

73  <>  Carl

At 03:12 PM 4/20/2008, Tony Martin W4FOA wrote:
>Hi Tim,
>I don't see a lot of activity here but the concept is good. I think we 
>all want to help others.
>It's amazing how fast "free" things are spoken for.  The down side to 
>this is that not everyone plays by the rules.  I recently offered an 
>item for free...it was taken within minutes.  Being a nice guy, I sent 
>the item to CA, Priority mail the next day.
>It was understood the item was fairly heavy so I would like $10 to 
>cover shipping.
>The recipient acknowledged receipt  of the "very nice" item and refund 
>of shipping costs was forthcoming.  (Never happened even though 
>promised (twice!).  Not a
big
>deal but it has rather "soured" me on participating further.
>
>Not a complaint but perhaps it will keep others from having an 
>unpleasant experience.
>
>73
>Tony, W4FOA
>
>
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>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:00 PM
>Subject: [FreeBay] The Freebay Concept
>
>
>>
>>First, I want to say that I am sorry about the confusion regarding the 
>>posting guidelines for this list.  I had assumed that everyone would 
>>have the same concept as I had.
>>
>>Since I wouldn't normally ask someone to give me something for free, I 
>>had no idea that some folks would want to do this, but it appears that 
>>I was mistaken.  I see this eventually being taken to the extreme with 
>>someone asking for transportation, homes, etc.  Don't laugh, people 
>>have tried to sell real estate on the forsale-swap list just because 
>>it has a nice location for antennas.  And then the complaints will 
>>start being posted, which was followed by a bunch of complaints about 
>>the complainers, and on and
on.
>>
>>I want to mention that I had also thought this list was a good way for 
>>folks to give things to people that were in need of an item for their 
>>use. Unfortunately, it appears that some folks here will take whatever 
>>is given to them purely to sell it.  This certainly is not the vision 
>>of this list either.
>>
>>That being said, I believe that this list should proceed with the idea 
>>that if you have something to give away, go for it.  If you are 
>>asking, selling, or trading, we already have lists in place that can 
>>meet your needs.
>>
>>I will say that I'm sure that some folks won't agree with this policy, 
>>but I've found that it's pretty hard to make everyone happy, and I'm 
>>sorry if this doesn't suit you.
>>
>>Thanks for all of your support for this list.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>
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