[ForSale-Swap] Heath Seneca FS - sort of

[rayfri]

Yes .. let's clear the air on this ....

It goes to the reason I bid on it in the first place.  His description 
leaves one to believe that it, at the least, wouldnt take a lot of 
effort to get it on the air.  I dont know what other people's definition 
of "fairly nice" means .. but mine does not mean nice looks and nothing 
else... And the price paid has no bearing on it.      When I list an 
item for sale, I at least turn the knobs and dials and make sure they 
work.   If I mean only nice looking on the outside, I do not say "fairly 
nice" and leave it at that.   If this guy has as much experience listing 
items as appears, then he has to know
that to hams "fairly nice" is not going to cut it.   I admit it....  I 
wasnt as "suspicious" as I should have been...

I bought it because I have always wanted one and I was looking for one 
that would work when I got it.   I have lots of other projects that I am 
working on now to restore them to air worthiness ... I was looking for a 
Seneca that I wouldnt have to put much effort into.
Frozen switches, broken glass, and broken dial cords may not be a big 
deal if you are not working on five other restorations ahead of it.. AND 
if you have a manual.  No manual came with it.  
Have you ever tried restringing a dial cord without a manual to show you 
how it goes?
Anyhow ... it may end up in the corner for some future year when I have 
the other projects done ... and after I also get done rebuilding the 
shack which I am in the process of doing too...        It still comes 
down to the fact that I dont think he was being completely honest.   
When I list something on Ebay, I give a COMPLETE description.   If a 
tube is bad, if a switch is frozen, if a dial cord is broken .. then I 
say exactly that.   I dont go saying ... it is "fairly nice" ... except 
if only the cosmetics are fairly nice.   Then I say exactly that....   
I have a couple of people who have said they have the time and the 
willingness to put the effort into it.... and so it appears it will
likely find a home....   I'm even willing to take a loss and chalk it up 
to lessons learned....
Ray

Steve wrote:

> Let's clear the air - this is the actual description:
>
> A FAIRLY NICE HEATHKIT SENECA TRANSMITTER. IT IS 6 AND 2 METERS, HAS A
> FEW SCUFFS, ALSO HAS DOW KEY MOUNTED ON BACK. I HAVE NOT POWERED IT
> UP, AND HAVE NO WAY TO TEST SO SOLD AS IS. THANKS FOR LOOKING AND
> CHECK MY OTHER ITEMS.
>
> The final cost was the princely sum of $39.95 plus shipping.  It
> actually does look fairly nice and he clearly states it's untested and
> sold as is.  I take that as meaning you will be lucky if it works -
> prepare for a parts junker.  He sold a nice looking box with
> components in it - he did not misrepresent, nor did he ever, anywhere,
> say it actually worked.  I agree with Ron - I have no idea what you
> were expecting for that price with that description, but clearly you
> did not read the text thoroughly.  Assuming otherwise in the face of
> an "as is" is a recipe for disaster.
>
> 73,
>
> Steve, N4EUK
>
> On 9/27/06, Ron <wa0kds at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
>> I think you had better rethink what you are saying about this person.
>> He sold you a non working not checked out unit and clearly stated it in
>> his listing.  He didn't say it was in excellent shape.  I beleive you
>> got exactly what the listing stated and at a good price also.  Sounds to
>> me like what you got was a fixer upper just like the listing stated.
>> Next time you are buying something on eBay ask questions and buy one
>> that is quaranteed to work and you will be OK
>>  Just for the record I have bought more junk from people on the
>> newsgroups and other sites than I have ever bought on eBay.  I have
>> bought a lot of almost prefect items off eBay but had to pay for them
>> also.  I guess you get what you pay for.  There are no free lunches.
>>
>> Ron   WA0KDS
>>
>>
>> rayfri wrote:
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>> > ______________________________________________________________
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>> >
>> >     curtisbarlow_racing66 
>> <http://myworld.ebay.com/curtisbarlow_racing66>
>> >
>> > Item number: 260030127773
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron wrote:
>> >
>> >> Would you please state who you bought this from so I don't make the
>> >> same mistake.
>> >> Ron  WA0KDS
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> rayfri wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> ______________________________________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>> Well ... I learned a sad lesson about buying from "that other place"
>> >>> instead of asking here for what I'd like to get.
>> >>> The Heathkit Seneca I bought just arrived ...  I've always wanted
>> >>> one and was excited to get this one.  However, it turns out
>> >>> not be be "as advertised."
>> >>>
>> >>> The dial cord is broken, the dial glass is broken, the meter and
>> >>> crystal/VFO switches are frozen.   Cosmetically, the face plate and
>> >>> the cabinet look great.... which is probably one reason I let my
>> >>> guard down.  Definitely not in the "fairly nice" condition stated.
>> >>>
>> >>> SOOOOOO since I dont think anyone would want the whole thing shipped
>> >>> to them as a project ..  I guess I will just part it out.
>> >>> If anyone knows of any parts from  it they would want ....  knobs,
>> >>> meter, etc .... contact me for prices.
>> >>>
>> >>> There is also a Dow Key antenna relay mounted on the back which I
>> >>> will let go of too....
>> >>>
>> >>> In the meantime, I'll just keep looking for and dreaming of owning
>> >>> one of these rigs.....
>> >>> Ray  WA7ITZ
>> >>>
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