[Boatanchors] Re: [ForSale-Swap] Heath Seneca FS - sort of

Wed Sep 27 21:13:19 EDT 2006

Complete manual is available at:

http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/heath/vhf1/

It looks very nice when I view it.  Clear PDF document.

Ian, K6SDE

> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:boatanchors-
> >>bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rayfri
> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:59 PM
> >>To: Steve
> >>Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net; wa0kds at yahoo.com;
> >>FLBOATANCHORS at yahoogroups.com; HEATH at listserv.tempe.gov; forsale-
> >>swap at mailman.qth.net
> >>Subject: [Boatanchors] Re: [ForSale-Swap] Heath Seneca FS - sort of
> >>
> >>Yes .. let's clear the air on this ....
> >>
> >>It goes to the reason I bid on it in the first place.  His description
> >>leaves one to believe that it, at the least, wouldnt take a lot of
> >>effort to get it on the air.  I dont know what other people's definition
> >>of "fairly nice" means .. but mine does not mean nice looks and nothing
> >>else... And the price paid has no bearing on it.      When I list an
> >>item for sale, I at least turn the knobs and dials and make sure they
> >>work.   If I mean only nice looking on the outside, I do not say "fairly
> >>nice" and leave it at that.   If this guy has as much experience listing
> >>items as appears, then he has to know
> >>that to hams "fairly nice" is not going to cut it.   I admit it....  I
> >>wasnt as "suspicious" as I should have been...
> >>
> >>I bought it because I have always wanted one and I was looking for one
> >>that would work when I got it.   I have lots of other projects that I am
> >>working on now to restore them to air worthiness ... I was looking for a
> >>Seneca that I wouldnt have to put much effort into.
> >>Frozen switches, broken glass, and broken dial cords may not be a big
> >>deal if you are not working on five other restorations ahead of it.. AND
> >>if you have a manual.  No manual came with it.
> >>Have you ever tried restringing a dial cord without a manual to show you
> >>how it goes?
> >>Anyhow ... it may end up in the corner for some future year when I have
> >>the other projects done ... and after I also get done rebuilding the
> >>shack which I am in the process of doing too...        It still comes
> >>down to the fact that I dont think he was being completely honest.
> >>When I list something on Ebay, I give a COMPLETE description.   If a
> >>tube is bad, if a switch is frozen, if a dial cord is broken .. then I
> >>say exactly that.   I dont go saying ... it is "fairly nice" ... except
> >>if only the cosmetics are fairly nice.   Then I say exactly that....
> >>I have a couple of people who have said they have the time and the
> >>willingness to put the effort into it.... and so it appears it will
> >>likely find a home....   I'm even willing to take a loss and chalk it up
> >>to lessons learned....
> >>Ray
> >>
> >>Steve wrote:
> >>
> >>> Let's clear the air - this is the actual description:
> >>>
> >>> A FAIRLY NICE HEATHKIT SENECA TRANSMITTER. IT IS 6 AND 2 METERS,
> >>HAS A
> >>> FEW SCUFFS, ALSO HAS DOW KEY MOUNTED ON BACK. I HAVE NOT
> >>POWERED IT
> >>> UP, AND HAVE NO WAY TO TEST SO SOLD AS IS. THANKS FOR LOOKING
> >>AND
> >>> CHECK MY OTHER ITEMS.
> >>>
> >>> The final cost was the princely sum of $39.95 plus shipping.  It
> >>> actually does look fairly nice and he clearly states it's untested and
> >>> sold as is.  I take that as meaning you will be lucky if it works -
> >>> prepare for a parts junker.  He sold a nice looking box with
> >>> components in it - he did not misrepresent, nor did he ever, anywhere,
> >>> say it actually worked.  I agree with Ron - I have no idea what you
> >>> were expecting for that price with that description, but clearly you
> >>> did not read the text thoroughly.  Assuming otherwise in the face of
> >>> an "as is" is a recipe for disaster.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Steve, N4EUK
> >>>
> >>> On 9/27/06, Ron <wa0kds at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> I think you had better rethink what you are saying about this person.
> >>>> He sold you a non working not checked out unit and clearly stated it
in
> >>>> his listing.  He didn't say it was in excellent shape.  I beleive you
> >>>> got exactly what the listing stated and at a good price also.  Sounds
to
> >>>> me like what you got was a fixer upper just like the listing stated.
> >>>> Next time you are buying something on eBay ask questions and buy one
> >>>> that is quaranteed to work and you will be OK
> >>>>  Just for the record I have bought more junk from people on the
> >>>> newsgroups and other sites than I have ever bought on eBay.  I have
> >>>> bought a lot of almost prefect items off eBay but had to pay for them
> >>>> also.  I guess you get what you pay for.  There are no free lunches.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ron   WA0KDS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> rayfri wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > ______________________________________________________________
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     curtisbarlow_racing66
> >>>> <http://myworld.ebay.com/curtisbarlow_racing66>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Item number: 260030127773
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ron wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Would you please state who you bought this from so I don't make
the
> >>>> >> same mistake.
> >>>> >> Ron  WA0KDS
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> rayfri wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Well ... I learned a sad lesson about buying from "that other
place"
> >>>> >>> instead of asking here for what I'd like to get.
> >>>> >>> The Heathkit Seneca I bought just arrived ...  I've always wanted
> >>>> >>> one and was excited to get this one.  However, it turns out
> >>>> >>> not be be "as advertised."
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> The dial cord is broken, the dial glass is broken, the meter and
> >>>> >>> crystal/VFO switches are frozen.   Cosmetically, the face plate
and
> >>>> >>> the cabinet look great.... which is probably one reason I let my
> >>>> >>> guard down.  Definitely not in the "fairly nice" condition
stated.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> SOOOOOO since I dont think anyone would want the whole thing
shipped
> >>>> >>> to them as a project ..  I guess I will just part it out.
> >>>> >>> If anyone knows of any parts from  it they would want ....
knobs,
> >>>> >>> meter, etc .... contact me for prices.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> There is also a Dow Key antenna relay mounted on the back which I
> >>>> >>> will let go of too....
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> In the meantime, I'll just keep looking for and dreaming of
owning
> >>>> >>> one of these rigs.....
> >>>> >>> Ray  WA7ITZ
> >>>> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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