[FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong

Rolan O. Clark rolan.clark at comcast.net
Sat Feb 16 19:25:24 EST 2008


Kirk,

Keep asking questions, there are a lot more antenna  installations that are 
compromise antennas simply because we don't have the time, space and money 
to put up theoritical perfect antennas and each installation has its own set 
of problems but they can usually be lumped to a few 'typical' situations.

Take care,

Rolan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kirktal7237 at msn.com>
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: February 16, 2008 19:08
Subject: Re: [FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong


> Also, there's an article in QST this month about low profile antennas.
>
> 73
> KB3ONM
> Kirk
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bob Moroney" <windbrkr at erols.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:54 PM
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong
>
>> Jim,
>> I know you've talked about your antenna setup before at FARC meetings, 
>> such as the NVIS discussion we had last year, but you probably ought to 
>> be ready to talk some more on Monday evening, where as you know, the 
>> topic is "Low Profile Antennas for High Frequency Operation".
>>
>> And Ernie,
>> If you could make the meeting as well, that would be great!  I know 
>> several of us would look forward to seeing you again, if you can make it.
>>
>> And All,
>> Thanks for continuing to read and contribute to the useful discussions 
>> that go on here!
>>
>> 73, Bob K9CMR
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> M and J Gillespie wrote:
>>> Ernie,
>>> I am like you.  Somehow all  these ideas of cancelling out and such are 
>>> theory and those who consider themselves "professional" hams think 
>>> anything less is no good.  Well, I have a small back yard 25 x 25 feet 
>>> in size and I load a long wire like you do with an l-nework tuner.  It 
>>> is about 65 feet long and is bent into a square about 32 by 32 by 32 
>>> feet and is nailed to a wooden fence with insulators.  Probably one of 
>>> the worst imaginable antennsa ankwhere but it works in the absence of 
>>> anything better.In the pasts 7 years I have worked over 200 countries 
>>> and have worked all zones except two wih it. I do have a WAZ 
>>> certificate. Just today I worked all continents except Asia. The 
>>> anatenna is very short on 160 but works there.  It will load on all 
>>> bands 160 through 10 including the so calledd WARC bands. One thing, the 
>>> windom will work well on even harmonic bands but will not work on odd 
>>> multlples (15 meters).
>>> I would love to chat with you sometimes about your antenna set up.
>>>
>>> Best of 73s
>>> Jim, K3DQ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Hansen" 
>>> <ernie_hansen at prodigy.net>
>>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kirk,
>>>>
>>>>  I have been reading bits and pieces of your emails.  Thank you for 
>>>> pointing these facts out. I was not aware of the cancellation. I have 
>>>> been working the low bands for years with an end fed long wire with 
>>>> nothing more than a coil and capacitor (L-network) for a tuner. The 
>>>> problem with them is if you cut the wire long enough for 80 and 160 
>>>> meters like I do, they get very directive at the higher frequencies.
>>>>
>>>>  73, Ernie Hansen, K3VVV
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