[FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong

kirktal7237 at msn.com kirktal7237 at msn.com
Sat Feb 16 19:08:58 EST 2008


Also, there's an article in QST this month about low profile antennas.

73
KB3ONM
Kirk

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From: "Bob Moroney" <windbrkr at erols.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:54 PM
To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong

> Jim,
> I know you've talked about your antenna setup before at FARC meetings, 
> such as the NVIS discussion we had last year, but you probably ought to 
> be ready to talk some more on Monday evening, where as you know, the 
> topic is "Low Profile Antennas for High Frequency Operation".
> 
> And Ernie,
> If you could make the meeting as well, that would be great!  I know 
> several of us would look forward to seeing you again, if you can make it.
> 
> And All,
> Thanks for continuing to read and contribute to the useful discussions 
> that go on here!
> 
> 73, Bob K9CMR
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> M and J Gillespie wrote:
>> Ernie,
>> I am like you.  Somehow all  these ideas of cancelling out and such 
>> are theory and those who consider themselves "professional" hams think 
>> anything less is no good.  Well, I have a small back yard 25 x 25 feet 
>> in size and I load a long wire like you do with an l-nework tuner.  It 
>> is about 65 feet long and is bent into a square about 32 by 32 by 32 
>> feet and is nailed to a wooden fence with insulators.  Probably one of 
>> the worst imaginable antennsa ankwhere but it works in the absence of 
>> anything better.In the pasts 7 years I have worked over 200 countries 
>> and have worked all zones except two wih it. I do have a WAZ 
>> certificate. Just today I worked all continents except Asia. The 
>> anatenna is very short on 160 but works there.  It will load on all 
>> bands 160 through 10 including the so calledd WARC bands. One thing, 
>> the windom will work well on even harmonic bands but will not work on 
>> odd multlples (15 meters).
>> I would love to chat with you sometimes about your antenna set up.
>>
>> Best of 73s
>> Jim, K3DQ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Hansen" 
>> <ernie_hansen at prodigy.net>
>> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FARC] Wrong, Wrong, Wrong
>>
>>
>>> Kirk,
>>>
>>>  I have been reading bits and pieces of your emails.  Thank you for 
>>> pointing these facts out. I was not aware of the cancellation. I have 
>>> been working the low bands for years with an end fed long wire with 
>>> nothing more than a coil and capacitor (L-network) for a tuner. The 
>>> problem with them is if you cut the wire long enough for 80 and 160 
>>> meters like I do, they get very directive at the higher frequencies.
>>>
>>>  73, Ernie Hansen, K3VVV
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