[FADCA] Points of Clarification

Fri, 12 Apr 2002 05:39:10 -0400

Deltona
Friday April 12 0533EST

Chuck:

Rick KN6KB is developing that and we are doing some alpha tests through the
layered network and X1J flat network.

He can tell you all about it..

By the way- the sound card interfacing sounds very intriguing.  If that
leads to replacing TNCs/Data controllers, even if it takes a more expensive
computer at the LINUX/FPAC site, after the third TNC that is cheap compared
to all the hardware/TNCs required. A related issue is that TNC development /
support by manufacturers is at a standstill at best... not much going on
there.

Keep the investigation going.

Oh.. thanks for the Power Point pix.. may I have your permission to use it
in my presentation at TLH if I get that far?

73,
bud N0IA

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: [FADCA] Points of Clarification

> I assume that sms= ShortMessageSystem or something similar. Is that a
> app that runs on the user end or is it something that has to run on
> both the user and the network side?
>
> Can you give point me to a set of files about it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Muething [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 01:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [FADCA] Points of Clarification
>
>
> Bud,
>
> The SMSNode software is currently still only Windows but it should (so he
> says) be straight forward to re compile for Linux and this is in the
plans.
> Any volunteers for this job would be much appreciated!
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
> Behalf Of bud Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Rick Muething KN6KB
> Subject: Re: [FADCA] Points of Clarification
>
>
> Deltona
> Thursday April 11 1155EDT
>
> Chuck:
>
> It is possible The Light is coming on in Deltona....
>
> My question is hardware related:
>
> To pull off this "LINUX FPAC box" does that require running FPAC/LINUX in
> the computer AND having some  hardware interface"box" other than comports
> out to TNCs, radios, phone lines, etc?
>
> Rick KN6KB - see below - does this work for your SMS stuff where we have
an
> internet connection at the "LINUX FPAC box"?
>
> Man, we may be getting there...
>
> bud
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Hast" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [FADCA] Points of Clarification
>
>
> > Bud:
> > I am going to zero in on your one question, see my comments below...
> >
> > On Thursday 11 April 2002 07:40 L, you wrote:
> > > Deltona
> > > Thursday April 11 0730EST
> > >
> > > Hi, Gang:
> > >feel that we should have a suggested plan for the two
> > > networks to work together to better cover the state.
> > >
> > > I AM STILL AWAITING INPUT FROM FADCA ON THAT LAST POINT!  (Maybe with
> all
> > > my e-mail I've missed that.)
> >
> > This is one of my reasons for trying to get the LINUX FPAC boxes going.
> Once
> > done we can then support all the common networking protocols on the same
> box.
> > IP, FPAC(ROSE), NetRom (X1J et al SEDAN uses X1J) APRS and anything else
> > that people want to play with. It all comes already as part of the AX.25
> > packages and those that are running these boxes are doing just exactly
> that.
> >
> > I feel that if we can have all the different protocols up and running in
> the
> > same box with different ports (in some cases they co-exist on the same
> > channel you just access them with a different SSID) either physical or
> > virtual. I am setting up a test bench for this very thing right now and
> hope
> > to get a box going so I can convert the kp4djt switch over to LINUX and
> > give it a total shake down. I am still not very good at getting the
> packages
> > all together and making it run, I understand that once you do it there
is
> not
> > much to it. I just need to get it done.
> >
> > As far as day to day operation it will not look any different from the
way
> you
> > do it now. If you are using FPAC you will either do a connection via the
> > switch,address or you will connect to the switch call and issue a
connect
> > to the target through the switch. (same sort of thing as the NR side
does
> it)
> > If you are running IP you will just go through the IP side of it or you
> can
> > use FPAC and pass IP packets on that network (turns out to be a bit
faster
> > that way due to the way FPAC handles upper layer protocols).
> >
> > The neat thing is this box will no longer limit that site to one and
only
> one
> > protocol. There are also drivers for the HF side of the house so a LINUX
> > site could have a HF port to link to over the horizon sites, and you can
> > by various means limit what and who transits through that path, so you
> > could in theory have a WL2K box talking on VHF to a remote HF link and
> > reduce the amount of gear at the WL2K site. I have been following
several
> > threads on the LINUX Hams list and it appears there are now drivers that
> > will allow the use of PACTOR and other HF modes to pass AX25 frames
> > which of course will contain whatever the site specifies. But prior to
> even
> > going there I want to get my switch converted, just get the FPAC part up
> > and running and doing tunneling over IP (that is important in order to
be
> > able to do IP links, the IP part rides free as part of the kernel
anyhow)
> then
> > I would start adding the other bits and pieces.
> >
> > --
> > Chuck Hast
> > KP4DJT
> > [email protected]
> > To paraphrase my flight instructor;
> > "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my
> > going out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of
> > torn and twisted metal."
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