[Elecraft] K3 Audio routing question

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > If the Silicone Police didn't interfere, this feature that has
 > already been programmed and ready for implementation could be turned
 > on and this discussion would be over.

That's about as sanctimonious and stupid as I've heard on this list
for a long time.  It is obviously based in the ignorance of a long
time appliance operator who has no idea what he's talking about.

Wayne has regularly indicated that he has a very long list of
programming items for the K3 and that he does not like to spend
time on items that can already be accomplished, that create added
"options" ("lock out") or opportunities to confuse most users,
and most certainly can result in decreased or improper performance
of the K3.  Your temper tantrum meets all three of those tests.

 > This is NOT a feature that would affect your operation if it
 > were made available.

This is most certainly a misfeature that would result in decreased
performance to my receiver if it were enabled.

 > I know that Lyle sees this as being the case, as he's already said
 > exactly what I just did.

Lyle gave you one way to achieve your desired goals, I gave you
another ... both use existing capabilities of the K3 and neither
represent the potential for improper operation of diversity mode.

 > However, what disappoints me more is the fact that Joe, you didn't
 > even bother to try it out like I asked you too...  You're mind is
 > just made up before you've seen what it actually does on some weak
 > signals.

I did not need to "try it out" this time.  I've used diversity and
I know full well from experience what happens when one MIXES audio
rather than keeping each channel separate.  You, on the other hand,
are so hell bent on getting your own way that you will insist on a
decrease in performance of the rig for every other user rather
than use the dual receive function which is more appropriate in
your case.

 > Now, this has become an argument.

You're right - this has become an argument.  That's generally
what happens when one party in a debate lacks is incapable of
realizing when their position is factually incorrect and
logically flawed.  You're not arguing with my experience, you
continue to argue with W8JI, K9YC, W7AY and many other very
experienced engineers and operators.

Hell, if you want to mix audio in diversity, just set "Speakers
= 1" and plug your headphones into the speaker jack.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 7/6/2010 12:23 PM, The Smiths wrote:
>
> If the Silicone Police didn't interfere, this feature that has
> already been programmed and ready for implementation could be turned
> on and this discussion would be over. Some times it's just easier to
> let a feature go that others don't see the use for instead of
> policing how others use their radios.  This is NOT a feature that
> would affect your operation if it were made available.
>
> I know that Lyle sees this as being the case, as he's already said
> exactly what I just did.  However, what disappoints me more is the
> fact that Joe, you didn't even bother to try it out like I asked you
> too...  You're mind is just made up before you've seen what it
> actually does on some weak signals. There is more than just myself
> out here that don't have the perfect Diversity antenna set up.  Many
> people in small QTH's have exactally what I have for a set up, and
> this feature would help them out greatly.  You've already heard from
> others that have their ideas on how to use this feature too.
>
> Yes, you're right, If I wanted to operate in Dual receive mode and
> track my VFO's together then make sure antennas were set up the way
> that they need to be, adjust all the other features, make sure the
> Width is set together... Or, I could just turn on the Mixer!
>
> Now, this has become an argument.  At this point we should STOP
> talking about this.. We're agreeing at the same time we're
> arguing....Enough said.
>
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