[Elecraft] Re: CX Report

Tue Oct 9 15:01:42 EDT 2007

I always discard the "Well!  There are the WARC bands!" answer.  You can't 
work short/medium haul on 30 most of the time. and no CW allowed on 60 
meters!  Personally, I don't see why they don't open 30/17/12 meters up to 
contesting as well as the other bands.  Basically 17/12 meters have been 
quite useless most of the past few years, or at least can't be relied on due 
to poor propagation conditions.

Although I do like some contests, there isn't ANY reason 99% of the time for 
a contest that lasts longer than 24 hours!

One of the best things that happened to contesting is the "sprint" or 2-4 
hour window for most contests that are not "DX" contests.  After so many 
operating hours, what started out as "fun" turns out being a chore and a 
bore.

my two additional penny's worth.

73,

Sandy W5TVW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz at verizon.net>
To: "'Sandy'" <ebjr37 at charter.net>
Cc: "'Elecraft List'" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Re: CX Report

>I am sure we can have many points of view on this topic. I happen to be in
> the group that says let's enjoy contests and try to get as much activity 
> as
> possible, regardless of the mode.
> Hey, there is always 12, 17 and 30M for non-contesters.
> Also, you may want to read what Hollingsworth said at Dayton about 
> contests
> and contesters.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sandy
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:46 PM
> To: David Thompson
> Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net; Elecraft List; Glowbugs reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: CX Report
>
> There has been an IARU bandplan that just came out.  NOW is the time to
> support it and restrict contests to the sectors that are befitting the 
> mode.
>
> The RTTY guys run rampant all over the band and are making HF comms "hell"
> for others who would like a piece of the pie too.  This will get worse as
> modes like CW and AM become "obsolete" in their eyes.
>
> There IS a simple solution:  retrict the contests to a small slice of the
> band.  Assign monitoring stations to list those that stray out of these
> "assigned segments".  The "penalty" would be disqualification of log for
> those who do so.  This would require that ARRL, IARU, RSGB and others 
> stand
> by these standards so that the contesters would not monopolize the WHOLE
> band with their "fun"!
>
> There is no reason why the contests shouild take up the whole CW or whole
> SSB segments or RTTY should run rampant over the entire band during the
> contests.
>
> I am mainly a QRP contester, but the QRP folks have taken steps to usually
> restrict their contests to narrow segments of the CW bands to avoid 
> stepping
>
> on the toes of those who wish not to participate.
>
> Does this proposal make any sense to your folks out there?
>
> 73,
>
> Sandy W5TVW
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
> To: <ebjr37 at charter.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:08 PM
> Subject: Re: CX Report
>
>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> I was working the YL/OM phone a few years ago and calling CQ YL and at 0Z
>> the North American Sprint came on.  These guys tried to steam roll me.
>> K0GAS (a YL) worked me so I would give her a sprint QSO.  Moved to 40 to
>> get
>> away from them.
>>
>> This year I was working the QCWA party and had to move to SSB from CW as
>> some RTTY contest came on and wiped out the CW bands.
>>
>> A few years ago the State QSO parties almost died
>> as W5NQR/NQQ ran the LA one and I and K4BAI the GA one and almost no one
>> came.  Now they and those sprints are all over plus there is a RTTY one
>> every weekend now (I am on the writelog reflector so I see posts about
>> them).  Some hams do 2 contests a weekend EVERY weekend and now those
>> sprints are weeknights.
>>
>> I first entered the ARRL SS in 1958 so I have been around for years and
>> quiet QSO parties such as CX and QCWA are being pushed off the map.  Too
>> bad.
>>
>> What to do?  I have complained to the three or four people who CONTROL
>> contests and they laugh me off. CQ and ARRL just look the other way.
>> And as you probably remember I run the CQ 160 Contests.
>>
>> 73 Dave K4JRB
>>
>>
>>
>>
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