FW: [Elecraft] question on licensing - extra

[N2EY@aol.com]

In a message dated 2/16/04 7:21:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dbarker@visioncomm.net writes:


> Jim appears to be quoting a definitive source, and I don't see the class
> "Amateur Extra" anywhere in the text. Has the class been renamed to "Extra"?
> That would be a shame. (That's no hyphen, boys<g>).

My bad! I used the colloquial "Extra" rather than the correct full name.


> 
> The final point, "Any General or Advanced license document that is unexpired
> or in the grace period gives credit for Elements 1, 2 and 3" appears NOT to
> give credit for Element 4 to Advanced class license holders. 

That's right - it doesn't. But note that the elements have been renamed and 
post-2000 Element 4 is not exactly the same as old Element 4A 


I took the
> 
> Advanced so long ago it's hard to remember, but I thought it was the Amateur
> Extra Questions with the General (13 wpm) code.

No, it wasn't!

The Advanced started as the old Class A in the early 1930s and its written 
test was at a level higher than the the General/Class B test, which was also 
used for the Conditional. The General written ("old" Element 3) was also used for 
the Tech until March 21, 1987, when it was split into two pars, 3A and 3B.

The written test for Extra (short name used for brevity) was created in 1951 
and was at a level even higher than the Advanced. The Extra was meant to 
replace the Advanced, and no new Advanceds were issued after December 31, 1952. 
However,  FCC changed its mind in the 1960s and reopened the Advanced to new 
issues in 1967.

When the Advanced was reopened, the Extra written test ("old" Element 4) was 
split into Elements 4A and 4B.

 I upgraded to Amateur Extra
> 
> about 6 weeks later. Seems it should encompass Element 4, as Brad suggests.
> 
> 

At no time was the Advanced written the same as the Extra written.




> <snip>
> The following changes went into effect on April 15, 2000, and are in effect
> today:
> </snip>
> 

73 de Jim, N2EY


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