[ECAC] Next moves

[chuck]

Hello all

I disagree, the two NTS Chair's ( I say two because the third Chair was only 
a fill
in and did not want to get involed ) along with the three NTS Digital 
Coordinators
tried to make the ECAC committee understand how the system worked. But some
members of the committee had their own idea's and would not listen to what 
was
being said. Al W3YVQ and the members attend the coferances and tried to
to explain in detail how things worked but members had their own idea's.
Along with that every time I tried to show or talk about the NTS workings on 
the
conferances, I was told I was either wrong, didn't know what I was talking
about or sort of  laughed at becasue I always had comment in the other 
direction
from what members thought.....A number of times I made the statement that
no matter what I said members were going to do what the wanted to or thought
and thus washed my hands of it, thus I stated do what ever you want because 
your
going to do it anyway and thus I gave up ......One other point, the two Area
NTS Chair's and Area Digital Coordinators was told that they would have a 
chance
to review the poles/questions/survey's that were put out about the NTS, this 
did not
happen thus the poles were flawed and made no sence. Which brings up another
point, members would refer back to the survey's stating what the survey's 
had said
as if they were gospel but knowing they were flawed and this was even 
admitted in
the ECAC finial report.

Now I'm sure after reading the above some of you will be hopping up and down
but the fact is I don't care, if you can;t stand the truth then I'm sorry 
for you.
If you really what to get something acomplished both for ARES and the NTS
then I suggust very strongly incorporate the now three NTS Area Chair's and
the two other NTSD Area Digital Coodinators into your conversation along 
with
Al W3YVQ.   But if you don't then I can only believe you are mad the BOD
didn't except what you put forth and are going to push for your own agenda
which per the BOD was flawed and you do not care about the amateurs in 
either
ARES or NTS .

73 Chuck W5KAV
ARRL Pacific Area Digital Coordinator NTSD
Member ARRL WL2K/NTS Committee
NTS Pacific Area TCC Cycle 2 station
ARES AEC Centralia WA EOC
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JimZ" <kd0s at kd0s.com>
To: <ecac at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ECAC] Next moves


>I read through the documents last night.
> It was difficult to understand where some of the comments came from.
> NTS obviously viewed our report as being too critical of their 
> organization.
> We all know that was not the intended result.
>
> I suspect while individuals were tossing ideas back and forth, trying to 
> learn more
> about NTS, any comments or suggestions we made were viewed as the 
> committee
> recommendations even though they were not in the final report.
>
> I read through the rebuttal comments by Jim and Dave. The comments
> were thoughtful and did a good job correcting errors in the
> NTS document.
> Thank you guys for your reserve while pointing out the facts.
>
> Jim KD0S
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