[Dx-qsl] (no subject)

Sun Feb 23 20:27:03 2003

The ARRL & the DXCC desk get enough heat from the DX community as it is.  Do
we really want to add to the noise level the additional burden of having to
maintain a list of cards not accepted due to "excessive" postage requests?

What is "excessive," anyway?  Any time I've brought up the subject of
certain DX QSL Managers who seem to require more $/IRC's than it appears
neccesary, I've gotten a pile of email saying either:
      (a)  it's not excessive
      (b)  if you don't like it, don't work DX
      (c)  quit whining
      (d)  the dx needs the extra $ for food / electric / equipment /
antennas
      (e)  that's the way that manager is, we don't like it either, too bad,
deal with it
[Choose one or more from the above list as you prefer, or add your own]

How much is excessive?  Do we retroactively remove credits?  What if the DX
station in question changes managers?  What if it turns out that what is
claimed to be "excessive" isn't, how do we retroactively undo this?  How
soon before someone files a lawsuit on grounds of pain / suffering / slander
/ libel over being put on the list?

No, I think this is one Pandorra's Box that the DXCC desk will decline to
open.  Can't say I blame them.

And I am going to make it a point to note when I've sent $2 or 2 IRC's to an
overseas manager, but get back a card mailed in the US with a $.37 stamp.  I
know, sometimes it's someone taking advantage of a business trip or a
friends/relative's trip to maximize the $, but there are a few multi-station
managers who seem to manage to do this on a regular basis.  Enquiring
minds...

73, ron wn3vaw

"Igor, would you give me a hand with the bags?"
"Certainly!  You take the blonde, and I'll take the one in the turban!"
-- Young Frankenstein

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Manthe" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] (no subject)

An effective solution might be to pressure the ARRL not to accept for DXCC
credit QSLs from managers that require excessive postage or those that
refuse to accept cards via the bureau. If these cards were not good for
credit, these managers that require 2 IRCs or $2 or 3.00US (!!!!) would soon
find themselves with plenty of time on their hands. There has been talk of
this before, but so far, I haven't seen the DXCC people take any action. It
would be nice to see someone from the ARRL really address this problem by
doing more than talk about it! I guess they don't want to offend anyone...

I don't mind paying the mailing expenses of DX stations or helping defray
the cost of operating or DXpedition costs, but I do mind someone trying to
make a living off of amateur radio. Of course, if some of us chasing awards
didn't pay the piper to get a card back, this problem would soon take care
of itself.

73,
Scott, N9AI

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: [Dx-qsl] (no subject)

> Following just received on the Penn DX Bulletin.
> I suggest all station NOT work the DX stations he is manager for, if you
are
> doing so for a QSL card.  Lets put a stop to managers who either cant or
wont
> confirm by bureau.  All it would take here, is for those station for which
he
> is the manager, to provide him the funds to send/receive from his buro.
> After all, its them that want him to do their work for them, and they
should
> be the ones to provide the funding.  Far too many such instances are
cropping
> up these days and it negates the usefulness of the buro system.  Does
anyone
> have a list of these stations???
>
>
>

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