[Drake] Tubes???

[James Barrie]

all i know is that the audio I hear out of my iPod into a decent set of  
cans out performs the Scott ... ditto for the Denon AVR-2400, the  
Pioneer SX2600 or Yamaha av55 ... all are much better than the Marantz  
or Scott  that I had as a teen. Much cleaner signal .. no hiss ... oh  
well .. apologize for getting the group off topic. I'm going back to 20  
with my T-4X / R-4C while the band is still open this afternoon
73
Jim
WA8SDF


On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Dan Cotsirilos K9DTC wrote:

Anyone who mocks the "warm" sound of tubes hasn't taken the time to  
hear what the differance is. I use a Scott 299C tube int amp and there  
is nothing solid state made today that I would change it with. When it  
comes to high fi they have not equaled the sold of 1960 with solid  
state as yet.

Do modern receivers "really" out perform a 1951 Collins R-388? I  
haven't heard one.




Dan K9DTC



----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Maples" <dsmaples at comcast.net>
To: "James Barrie" <barrie at cinci.rr.com>; "Drake Listserver ( QTH.NET  
)" <drake at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Drake] Tubes???


> James: There really is something behind the "warm sound".  A typical
> vacuum-tube push-pull Class B transformer-coupled output stage will  
> generate
> even harmonics, which are pleasing to the ear.  The early solid-state
> complementary-symmetry amplifiers, on the other hand, generated  
> odd-harmonic
> energy (which is irritating to the ear).
>
> For what it's worth.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave WB4FUR
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of James Barrie
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:33 PM
> To: Drake Listserver ( QTH.NET )
> Subject: Re: [Drake] Tubes???
>
>
> I have yet to have anyone tell me what "warm sound of tubes" really
> sounds like ...
> Is  it the muffled, muddy sounds that were typical of the time? You
> know... poor dynamic range....
> Or is it  just someone making up hype to move tubes that they were
> otherwise stuck with?
> And did they go on to found Monster Cable?
>  LOL
> Jim
> WA8SDF
>
> On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:14 PM, k6xyz wrote:
>
> You are only half right.....yes , the phools have kited the prices and
> any
> one of these tubes will work well in amateur service....however, there
> is a
> big, big difference in sound once you start to play music through them.
> Some
> tube brands are no good at all for music....some are excellent.
> That's a fact.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> CCA 97-535
> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> Sperry, Ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Glen Zook
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: Dan Bolander; drake at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Drake] Tubes???
>
> The audiophools have gone "ape" over the 12AX7 tubes
> and they run all over the place in prices due to their
> "desirablility" to those persons.
>
> Frankly, the cheapest 12AX7 should work just as well
> as the most expensive, especially in any amateur radio
> unit.  If you want my opinion, like 99.999% of the
> audiophools cannot really tell the difference in the
> performance between any of the 12AX7 tubes.  It is
> just that they have been "told" that one brand is
> better than another or that one element configuration
> is better than another.
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
>
> --- Dan Bolander <wb9tyt at cybrzn.com> wrote:
>
> I went to "TubeDepot site and checked the prices of
> all the tubes in the R4B and got a shock when I looked
> at the selection and prices for a 12AX7!!! There must
> be about 15 or more different prices. My question is,
> which tube is the best one for this application?? Most
> mention use in a guitar amp or some other amplifier..
>
> What say, which one is the right one and where might
> be the best place to get these tubes???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Website:  http://k9sth.com
>
>
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