[Drake] Tubes???

Wed Dec 5 21:34:02 EST 2007

   I would do the hamfest route, but being 200 miles from any place
makes that difficult and usually there is an antique tractor show on
the same weekend...
  It is really cold out up here, so not working on my tractors and going
to play radio for a bit until I head south for the rest of the winter...
   I agree that the tube stuff has a much mellower sound to me, but
the reciever is not as sensitive as the new stuff...

73 es tnx for all the comments and info...

Dan..

At 08:18 PM 12/5/2007, you wrote:
>All you guys are correct of course....but I think the original question
>was.....
> >>> My question is, which tube is the best one for this application??<<<<
>
>Dan, the best one for your application is the cheapest one....in fact, go to
>the next swap meet or hamfest and get a dozen for $6. Use the one that works
>the best.
>The 12AX7 are a dime a dozen for this application....when you want to play
>music through them then you can still use the cheap tubes but you have to
>select them by substitution in your amp for the best musical reproduction.
>Honestly....years ago I thought this was simply BS but attention to detail
>on tube selection for guitar amps will make you a believer.
>Regards
>
>Dave Harmon
>CCA 97-535
>K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>Sperry, Ok.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>On Behalf Of Dan Cotsirilos K9DTC
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:58 PM
>To: Drake Listserver ( QTH.NET )
>Subject: Re: [Drake] Tubes???
>
>Anyone who mocks the "warm" sound of tubes hasn't taken the time to hear
>what the differance is. I use a Scott 299C tube int amp and there is nothing
>
>solid state made today that I would change it with. When it comes to high fi
>
>they have not equaled the sold of 1960 with solid state as yet.
>
>Do modern receivers "really" out perform a 1951 Collins R-388? I haven't
>heard one.
>
>
>
>
>Dan K9DTC
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Maples" <dsmaples at comcast.net>
>To: "James Barrie" <barrie at cinci.rr.com>; "Drake Listserver ( QTH.NET )"
><drake at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:01 PM
>Subject: RE: [Drake] Tubes???
>
>
> > James: There really is something behind the "warm sound".  A typical
> > vacuum-tube push-pull Class B transformer-coupled output stage will
> > generate
> > even harmonics, which are pleasing to the ear.  The early solid-state
> > complementary-symmetry amplifiers, on the other hand, generated
> > odd-harmonic
> > energy (which is irritating to the ear).
> >
> > For what it's worth.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave WB4FUR
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of James Barrie
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:33 PM
> > To: Drake Listserver ( QTH.NET )
> > Subject: Re: [Drake] Tubes???
> >
> >
> > I have yet to have anyone tell me what "warm sound of tubes" really
> > sounds like ...
> > Is  it the muffled, muddy sounds that were typical of the time? You
> > know... poor dynamic range....
> > Or is it  just someone making up hype to move tubes that they were
> > otherwise stuck with?
> > And did they go on to found Monster Cable?
> >  LOL
> > Jim
> > WA8SDF
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:14 PM, k6xyz wrote:
> >
> > You are only half right.....yes , the phools have kited the prices and
> > any
> > one of these tubes will work well in amateur service....however, there
> > is a
> > big, big difference in sound once you start to play music through them.
> > Some
> > tube brands are no good at all for music....some are excellent.
> > That's a fact.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Harmon
> > CCA 97-535
> > K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> > Sperry, Ok.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:drake-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> > On Behalf Of Glen Zook
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:21 PM
> > To: Dan Bolander; drake at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Drake] Tubes???
> >
> > The audiophools have gone "ape" over the 12AX7 tubes
> > and they run all over the place in prices due to their
> > "desirablility" to those persons.
> >
> > Frankly, the cheapest 12AX7 should work just as well
> > as the most expensive, especially in any amateur radio
> > unit.  If you want my opinion, like 99.999% of the
> > audiophools cannot really tell the difference in the
> > performance between any of the 12AX7 tubes.  It is
> > just that they have been "told" that one brand is
> > better than another or that one element configuration
> > is better than another.
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Dan Bolander <wb9tyt at cybrzn.com> wrote:
> >
> > I went to "TubeDepot site and checked the prices of
> > all the tubes in the R4B and got a shock when I looked
> > at the selection and prices for a 12AX7!!! There must
> > be about 15 or more different prices. My question is,
> > which tube is the best one for this application?? Most
> > mention use in a guitar amp or some other amplifier..
> >
> > What say, which one is the right one and where might
> > be the best place to get these tubes???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> > Website:  http://k9sth.com
> >
> >
> >
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