[CW] Excellent sideswiper sending from F8GNV
D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
n1ea at arrl.net
Fri Jul 14 14:44:11 EDT 2023
There is no stop you can feel. What you say is true that the center
position of the main lever is determined by the right side stop
screw, but there is no disenable click heard or felt as I move the key from
side to side, there is a very minute change felt when keying motion
transfers from the main lever to the short lever with the bent lugs. But
there is no center detent, just the center position that happens when
keying motion transfers from the main lever to the short lever with the
bent lugs. It's a smooth and silent transition.
73
DR
N1EA
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 2:16 PM Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
> You are misinterpreting what I said. Look at how a standard bug is
> constructed, same arrangement on the Vibrokeyer, as you point out. There
> are TWO levers, one is the dot lever which operates the vibrator, the
> other is the very short dash lever hinged on the main trunnion. The
> center position is determined by the position of the right side stop
> screw. When the paddles are pushed to the left (dots) the whole lever
> moves until stopped by the left side stop screw, when released its
> pushed against the right hand stop by the spring. If you wire a keyer
> paddle to work as a side swiper you will go through this stop when going
> from side to side. On a real SS you will not encounter any stop. You can
> go from side to side with no click in the center. The centering of the
> lever is established by the neutral position of the spring in the lever.
> There IS a difference in the feel. With a real SS the only stops felt
> are from the contacts on either side.
>
> On 7/14/2023 10:58 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> > There is NO Stop on my Vibroplex Standard Keyer Paddle, only a center
> > position where the springs hold the lever in the center.
> >
> > That key uses the same two lever method of keying as the Vibroplex bug,
> > the dash lever is the short lever which pivots independently of the
> > longer dot lever. You cannot make either of the two independent levers
> > continue past the center point because their design prevents this, the
> > lever only closes in one direction on each of the two levers'
> >
> > vibrokeyer_1.jpg
> >
> > PDF attached of my modified machine drawing (above) and parts list from
> > Vibroplex.com..
> >
> > 73
> > DR
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:01 PM Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
> > <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>> wrote:
> >
> > It seems to me there is a large difference in the feel of a
> keyer
> > used as a SS and a conventional SS. The keyer has a stop in the
> middle,
> > you can feel it as you go through the stop. A conventional SS has no
> > stop, merely the neutral position of the spring. To me this is a
> major
> > difference. I don't like the way my Vibrokeyer feels when used as a
> SS.
> > The pix shows a Vibrokeyer with one knob, an easy modification. Does
> > not
> > affect what I am talking about.
> >
> > On 7/14/2023 9:24 AM, Chris R. NW6V wrote:
> > > None at all. In fact, Begali's HST series are both the single
> lever
> > > choice of many Radiosport HST paddle users, but explicitly
> > converts to a
> > > sideswiper with the flick of a switch
> > >
> > > 73 Chris NW6V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 07:42 Radio KH6O <radio.kh6o at gmail.com
> > <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there any reason, other than asthetic, for not using a
> > > single-paddle keyer as a sideswiper?
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html
> <
> http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html>
> <
> http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html
> <
> http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html
> >>
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Jeff KH6O
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