[CW] Excellent sideswiper sending from F8GNV
Richard Knoppow
1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
Fri Jul 14 16:45:41 EDT 2023
Well, I will have to experiment but have not had success in the past
using a paddle set. Easy enough to take the dash knob off and put a
plain screw in its place to keep the dot paddle from moving around.
On 7/14/2023 11:44 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> There is no stop you can feel. What you say is true that the center
> position of the main lever is determined by the right side stop
> screw, but there is no disenable click heard or felt as I move the key
> from side to side, there is a very minute change felt when keying motion
> transfers from the main lever to the short lever with the bent lugs. But
> there is no center detent, just the center position that happens when
> keying motion transfers from the main lever to the short lever with the
> bent lugs. It's a smooth and silent transition.
>
> 73
> DR
> N1EA
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 2:16 PM Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
> <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>> wrote:
>
> You are misinterpreting what I said. Look at how a standard bug is
> constructed, same arrangement on the Vibrokeyer, as you point out.
> There
> are TWO levers, one is the dot lever which operates the vibrator, the
> other is the very short dash lever hinged on the main trunnion. The
> center position is determined by the position of the right side stop
> screw. When the paddles are pushed to the left (dots) the whole lever
> moves until stopped by the left side stop screw, when released its
> pushed against the right hand stop by the spring. If you wire a keyer
> paddle to work as a side swiper you will go through this stop when
> going
> from side to side. On a real SS you will not encounter any stop. You
> can
> go from side to side with no click in the center. The centering of the
> lever is established by the neutral position of the spring in the
> lever.
> There IS a difference in the feel. With a real SS the only stops
> felt
> are from the contacts on either side.
>
> On 7/14/2023 10:58 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> > There is NO Stop on my Vibroplex Standard Keyer Paddle, only a
> center
> > position where the springs hold the lever in the center.
> >
> > That key uses the same two lever method of keying as the
> Vibroplex bug,
> > the dash lever is the short lever which pivots independently of the
> > longer dot lever. You cannot make either of the two
> independent levers
> > continue past the center point because their design prevents
> this, the
> > lever only closes in one direction on each of the two levers'
> >
> > vibrokeyer_1.jpg
> >
> > PDF attached of my modified machine drawing (above) and parts
> list from
> > Vibroplex.com..
> >
> > 73
> > DR
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:01 PM Richard Knoppow
> <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
> > <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
> <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > It seems to me there is a large difference in the feel
> of a keyer
> > used as a SS and a conventional SS. The keyer has a stop in
> the middle,
> > you can feel it as you go through the stop. A conventional SS
> has no
> > stop, merely the neutral position of the spring. To me this
> is a major
> > difference. I don't like the way my Vibrokeyer feels when
> used as a SS.
> > The pix shows a Vibrokeyer with one knob, an easy
> modification. Does
> > not
> > affect what I am talking about.
> >
> > On 7/14/2023 9:24 AM, Chris R. NW6V wrote:
> > > None at all. In fact, Begali's HST series are both the
> single lever
> > > choice of many Radiosport HST paddle users, but explicitly
> > converts to a
> > > sideswiper with the flick of a switch
> > >
> > > 73 Chris NW6V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 07:42 Radio KH6O
> <radio.kh6o at gmail.com <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>>
> > > <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>
> <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com <mailto:radio.kh6o at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there any reason, other than asthetic, for not using a
> > > single-paddle keyer as a sideswiper?
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html> <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html>> <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html> <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html <http://vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d10_VIBROKEYER_single_lever_paddles.html>>>
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Jeff KH6O
> > >
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